Poll: Battle for Azeroth seems to be a "filler expansion"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Neither is bringing a final end to the hatred between factions and the Alliances blind bigotry the are to blind to see.
    That was allready the promise of Cata, then MoP, then WoD.

    Blizzard will always go back to that retarded blue VS red that makes no sense anymore. And I'm bored as fuck of it.
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    I only hope this PvE domination comes to an end. Since first expacs game pvp focused with alternative dungeon-raids modes.
    Now has become pvp GARBAGE cause i think we all agree that pvp in legion is bad af with no true award whatsoever.

    WE NEED THAT FACTION WAR BACK, WE NEED THAT HATRED BETWEEN FACTIONS ONCE MORE.

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    It feels like a filler expansion but as long as its fun I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dybia View Post
    It feels like a filler expansion but as long as its fun I don't care.
    Pretty much this. We still have all of the Legion repeatable features (WQ, M+ for me mostly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teri View Post
    Good, guess I missed that part.

    Otherwise it'd be really dumb to lock X item behind a faction gate.
    The same goes for zones as well. We have faction specific leveling zones that will open up for the other faction with the level 120 faction campaign quests and will (if I understood correctly) include building bases on the enemy controlled zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dybia View Post
    It feels like a filler expansion but as long as its fun I don't care.
    Same here, if I can altoholic it out without 25 legendaries per class it'll be fun.

    And less worry about off spec Azerite, as a neck is gonna be used for all specs, as opposed to 36 weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonus View Post
    Content wise it seems fine, but lore wise kinda - two factions are fighting and there's no way one of them will actually win, and everyone knows it.
    If winning means completely annihilating the other faction, then sure, you're right.

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    patch 8.1 is going to be horde vs alliance
    patch 8.2 is going to start introducing Azeroth vs nzoth conflict
    patch 8.3 is going to be about AvN, and horde alliance get back togethor. all the in-fighting is about making us stronger

  9. #149
    Yep, absolutely feels like a filler expansion, and a prosaic one at that.

    We've gone from interdimensional ships and alien planets to...pirates, trolls and fighting over scraps of land. Tedium.

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    Remember when MoP was a "filler" expansion. Oh wait it started a storyline, had great content, and is known as one of the best expacs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgeezer View Post
    Yep, absolutely feels like a filler expansion, and a prosaic one at that.

    We've gone from interdimensional ships and alien planets to...pirates, trolls and fighting over scraps of land. Tedium.

    The interdimensional spaceships, aliens and space stuff is the one that doesn't fit in in a fantasy game. I like it, sure, but it can't be the new normal.

  12. #152
    If you consider the "main" storyline to be the forces of Azeroth vs. the Burning Legion (and then Void-lords) it seems like less "filler" than Cata, MoP and WoD as this expansion will follow on directly from the events of the latest Burning Legion invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I don't think it will be but the hype factor just doesn't seem strong with this one.
    That can only be a good thing.

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    i am getting a serious "MOP" vibe from this EXPAC and that is a very good thing! back to basics focus on established conflicts,story lines and bad-guys with some new twists with emphasis on story telling/lore etc. When we are in the heat of our conflict *WHAM* N'ZOTH shows up and will take a big Old God dump on all of us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc7 View Post
    The interdimensional spaceships, aliens and space stuff is the one that doesn't fit in in a fantasy game. I like it, sure, but it can't be the new normal.
    Wow is high fantasy. It's been that way since BC at the very least. If you want to scrabble around in the mud for potatoes there are plenty of games that facilitate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleSaint View Post
    i am getting a serious "MOP" vibe from this EXPAC and that is a very good thing! back to basics focus on established conflicts,story lines and bad-guys with some new twists with emphasis on story telling/lore etc. When we are in the heat of our conflict *WHAM* N'ZOTH shows up and will take a big Old God dump on all of us!
    That was my thought too. At first I was kinda bummed about faction conflict, because I'm a Horde player at heart but currently stuck on Alliance because I love my guild and guildmates.

    But I loved MoP, it was my favorite expansion, and I think that's what we're seeing here. What seems to be a side adventure at first glance will turn into something much larger in scale.
    I'm just here to complain, if I'm being honest

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    How can you call an expansion a filler expansion without playing it and knowing what it's actually about? We barely know anything. Not only that but the main theme of Warcraft is Alliance vs Horde so I'd hardly call that "filler"

    I got a feeling there is a lot they aren't telling us because of spoilers. Whether that be something that could spoil Argus (None of those characters were shown in either of the trailers) or a spoiler from the stuff that goes on at Undercity and Teldrassil. We also don't know what is going on with Thrall and they said he'd be a key character yet he was missing from both trailers. I'd also like to point out that they made a big deal out of Anduin using his holy powers and Sylvanas using her dark shadowy banshee powers in the cinematic so maybe that'll tease Light vs Dark later on in the expansion. Plus we know what happened with Alleria and we know Alleria will have a role in the next expansion and it'll be a big thing between her and Sylvanas because they are on opposite sides of this war so obviously something voidy will happen. I mean she is literally bringing Void Elves in to the Alliance so it's not just going to be ignored. My guess is some of the stuff happening in Argus is going on at the same time as the Alliance and Horde are at war and slowly as the expansion goes on those characters will start popping back up. There obviously is going to be some threat lurking in the shadows that we just aren't aware of yet. Since the Old Gods like to drive people mad by whispering to them it seems like a perfect time to do something like that in the middle of a war when people are desperate and vulnerable. Plus we know Azshara will be around and she has connections to the Old Gods.

    You can't call something a filler expansion if you don't know what it's about or where it's going. We just have a vague idea how it starts. We know the Alliance has had it with the Horde after what happened to Varian and so they attack Undercity to retake Lordaeron. We know Sylvanas ragequits and burns down Teldrassil (I don't even know what order these events happen in but I imagine it's a response to Anduin's invasion) and then each side seeks allies to help them in their giant war for Azeroth including the fleets of Zandalar and Kul Tiras. That's really all we know. It's basically their version of the "Broken Shore" event and the questing experience. We don't know what end game is. But story wise I don't see how any of this sounds filler. Filler is pulling something out of your ass that doesn't really move the story forward like MoP and WoD. Nothing that happened in those expansions other than the cliffhanger teases at the end had any impact on the world. This has a huge impact on the world.

    I know MoP's whole thing was that it sorta was about a war between Alliance and Horde and this peaceful land caught in the middle of it but I think they did a very bad job at telling that story. There were things in MoP I liked but the war side of that story was poorly executed. I think WoW can tell that story better now since they've gotten better at telling stories in WoD and Legion and they have better tech for it. MoP felt like them telling a story they weren't ready to tell but wanted to tell. I think they are ready now and I think there will obviously be a lot more to this than just Alliance vs Horde.
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    More content than Legion at launch: Filler expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreatureLives View Post
    How can you call an expansion a filler expansion without playing it and knowing what it's actually about? We barely know anything. Not only that but the main theme of Warcraft is Alliance vs Horde so I'd hardly call that "filler"

    I got a feeling there is a lot they aren't telling us because of spoilers. Whether that be something that could spoil Argus (None of those characters were showing in either of the trailers) or a spoiler from the stuff that goes on at Undercity and Teldrassil. We also don't know what is going on with Thrall and they said he'd be a key character yet he was missing from both trailers. I'd also like to point out that they made a big deal out of Anduin using his holy powers and Sylvanas using her dark shadowy banshee powers in the cinematic so maybe that'll tease Light vs Dark later on in the expansion. Plus we know what happened with Alleria and we know Alleria will have a role in the next expansion and it'll be a big thing between her and Sylvanas because they are on opposite sides of this war so obviously something voidy will happen. I mean she is literally bringing Void Elves in to the Alliance so it's not just going to be ignored. My guess is some of the stuff happening in Argus is going on at the same time as the Alliance and Horde are at war and slowly as the expansion goes on those characters will start popping back up. There obviously is going to be some threat lurking in the shadows that we just aren't aware of yet. Since the Old Gods like to drive people mad by whispering to them it seems like a perfect time to do something like that in the middle of a war when people are desperate and vulnerable. Plus we know Azshara will be around and she has connections to the Old Gods.

    You can't call something a filler expansion if you don't know what it's about or where it's going. We just have a vague idea how it starts. We know the Alliance has had it with the Horde after what happened to Varian and so they attack Undercity to retake Lordaeron. We know Sylvanas ragequits and burns down Teldrassil (I don't even know what order these events happen in but I imagine it's a response to Anduin's invasion) and then each side seeks allies to help them in their giant war for Azeroth including the fleets of Zandalar and Kul Tiras. That's really all we know. It's basically their version of the "Broken Shore" event and the questing experience. We don't know what end game is. But story wise I don't see how any of this sounds filler. Filler is pulling something out of your ass that doesn't really move the story forward like MoP and WoD. Nothing that happened in those expansions other than the cliffhanger teases at the end had any impact on the world. This has a huge impact on the world.

    I know MoP's whole thing was that it sorta was about a war between Alliance and Horde and this peaceful land caught in the middle of it but I think they did a very bad job at telling that story. There were things in MoP I liked but the war side of that story was poorly executed. I think WoW can tell that story better now since they've gotten better at telling stories in WoD and Legion and they have better tech for it. MoP felt like them telling a story they weren't ready to tell but wanted to tell. I think they are ready now and I think there will obviously be a lot more to this than just Alliance vs Horde.
    So much of this. Even the story bits we were given are so vague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myta View Post
    More content than Legion at launch: Filler expansion

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    This also, all the replayable content from legion is gonna be in BfA as well (for me mostly WQ and M+) and we're also getting some new stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgeezer View Post
    Wow is high fantasy. It's been that way since BC at the very least. If you want to scrabble around in the mud for potatoes there are plenty of games that facilitate that.
    That's not what high fantasy means, and I do know and appreaciate that the sf-esque aesthetic is part of wow, has been and will be. But as always, it will be intermittent, because nobody wants it to dominate the game.

    Also, scrabbling around in the mud for potatoes isn't the only, or the obvious alternative to SPAAACE, and you know it.

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