Nobody is going to run islands in PVP mode (by and large) unless they add rewards specific to that mode that you won't be able to obtain any other way. And if they add such rewards (they likely will and likely will make them laborious to obtain, creating a big grind), it will play like arenas = you can do them right now, just imagine that you are chasing a reward specific to islands instead of chasing ratings.
No, the appeal of the islands is not in PVP. If PVP wasn't killed dead, the islands would have been a fine addition to arenas, but even then they would be just that, a small addition. The appeal of the islands is in the improved AI. If they do deliver on that - and I think that's possible (we talked about that before, in a nutshell: they have experience and the canvas is fairly rich) - the islands will be cool. If they don't deliver on the improved AI, the islands are going to be just a smaller version of instances (or arenas, if you are masochist enough) that adds some variety in scenery, but not a lot of it.
Like I said above man, they confirmed the highest difficulty (Aka the best rewards) drop from the PvP Variant.
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Actually, I am using the caps and the bolding to help people who seem to (Ironically saying I am the one who needs to read) be incapable of reading my posts.
Also using another fallacy to justify lying doesn't mean its right lmao.
They explained multiple times that there would be one Warfront at launch - Stromgarde.
It seems like the issue here is very simple.
People who watched Blizzcon and actually listened to stuff on Warfronts understood that there would be one at launch.
People who didn't watch Blizzcon, except maybe the free opening ceremony, and got all their information from second-hand sources, assumed that there would be multiple ones at launch. Despite Blizzard repeatedly saying Stromgarde was the only one in at launch.
Yes, people using all-caps, bold, and posting dozens of times on the same subject, "don't give a fuck". That's definitely truthful of you.
At worst, Blizzard are guilty of slightly misleading marketing (like literally every other company in gaming). They were extremely clear at Blizzcon that Stromgarde would be the only Warfront at launch, and that later in the expansion, other Warfronts would open up. There was a vague implication that there would be only one Warfront open at a time, but it was unclear and could be wrong.
The reason people say that you "aren't reading" is because you are refusing to acknowledge that, at Blizzcon, Blizzard were very clear that Stromgarde would be the only Warfront open at launch.
You literally made an ad hominem attack on me in your previous post, so that's an incredibly hypocritical and strange thing to complain about.
Romance doesnt detract from a story. Its a Genre, like horror or comedy or adventure. The game was ruined when we got Horror in drustvar or nazmir. It wasnt ruined when we had funny quests. So if you think a little man on man love ruins the game, then yes you are either a homophobe or just a spoil sport that goes "ewww kissing is yucky" like a baby. Furthermore, if a character has never expressed interest in any gender, then its not proof they are straight. straight people are not the default
Yup, I saw.
Since we are talking about this PVP mode for islands, it is perhaps worth mentioning the most important decision that will affect gameplay: whether the PVP matches will not use ratings / will use arena ratings or maybe some special ratings for islands. I think they will use arena ratings, because it's sanest and doesn't require much work, but still:
* If they use no ratings at all, it's likely going to dry up really fast. Queuing with ratings ignored sounds fun when you think you can PVP and are feeling yourself like a big fish / certainly above average bla bla bla. But the ultimate effect is that folks who can't get wins (say, at the real ratings of 0-200 if they cared to measure) stop queuing, this makes some other folks unable to get wins (200-400) and they stop queuing as well, and this quickly snowballs and pretty soon nobody queues.
* If they use ratings, there are two immediate effects. First, welcome back to queues. Second, welcome back to arenas. I don't see how the islands can make the gameplay more interesting than it is in the arenas (I get the irony of using the word "interesting" here, and I agree that current arenas are trash, but the point is that the islands are same trash). What is going to make the difference - creative ways of aggroing the NPCs to your enemy? If that will ever become a factor, it will just promote "tactics" that are resistant to that - like all-stealth teams (and so if you aren't stealth, don't even queue, there's no setup for you). Or what, the increased area? This only makes fights longer and much more about burst, because if you don't kill someone in very short time he will just run away and heal to full.
I don't know, maybe I am not seeing something, but I wouldn't expect much at all from the PVP mode in islands. I think the appeal is in the improved AI and in that alone.
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Let's stop this idiocy.
Links to the multiple explanations, please. Blizzcon links.
At worst, Blizzard are guilty of slightly misleading marketing (like literally every other company in gaming). They were extremely clear at Blizzcon that Stromgarde would be the only Warfront at launch, and that later in the expansion, other Warfronts would open up. There was a vague implication that there would be only one Warfront open at a time, but it was unclear and could be wrong.
Ok. So first off, again, I use the caps and bolding because you can't read, not because I am mad, although I am perpetually assblasted, but thats more of a state of being, less of a mad about this particular subject. I really mean it when I say I couldn't give less of a fuck. I really don't care one way or the other. I have other MMOs, specifically ESO and Guild Wars, to fall back on if Blizzard pulls another WoD.
Next, misleading marketing is still deceptive marketing which is grounds for lawsuits if people were so inclined. They were exactly the opposite at Blizzcon on the subject of Stormgarde by the way, they, again, used plurals to describe the system all over and used Stormgarde as an example of a working concept. So no. You are incorrect sorry bub. All the interviews and the BFA Website saw as such in the wording. Now, on to me being incapable of reading. It seems to be a stable of posters now, I guess when you make half decent points you can only say I don't read and call me names. So far this is the first post where you actually tried to counter. So gratz?
Along with a massive wall of text full of shit you probably didn't bother to read. When your entire argument is a fallacy then it isn't an argument, as I said, and as your previous post said.
Oh look, more not reading. Let me go quote myself so you can read something relevant.
That's going to take literally 30+ minutes of my life of jumping around through Blizzcon panels. So two questions:
1) Do you and Paula actually have access to the Blizzcon panels?
2) Will you and Paula actually apologise and back off when I show I'm right?
If the answer to both questions is yes from both of you, I will waste that time for you. If not, bloody watch the bloody relevant panels yersself!
1 - I don't have access to the Blizzcon panels, I watched a couple when they were being live on streams, and for the rest I read the summaries.
2 - Yes, I will apologize. Show me the case where they clearly said that there will be just one warfront at launch (which, yes, I could have missed in retrospect so I am half-apologizing right now - maybe, indeed, you are right) and I will apologize.
For 1, if you name the panel / timestamp and copy the text here, it's going to be enough for me, I will take your word.
So regardless of them backtracking, they still lost FUCKLOADS of money from this and have been given nothing but negative press. I chose EA because so far it seems like current events seem to be getting the most logical replies. Using them as an example rather than WoD Blizzard seemed like an apt idea.
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And since I realize that scanning panels for clues is a lot of work - and thank you if you are doing it - I will show the bits of info that made *me* think that there are multiple warfronts coming:
Wowhead
This is a 20 player cooperative mode that occurs on the home front
The first Warfront is Stromgarde
Warfronts will not always be active, it will feel like a special event, ...
Could be on a schedule like Timewalking or Invasions.
Rewards are not yet finalized, but there are Alliance and Horde armor sets planned from it.
http://www.wowhead.com/news=275510/b...garde-gameplay
Polygon
...warfronts are a PvE take on what might be seen as a traditionally PvP setup ...
The first warfront in the expansion will take place in the Arathi Highlands, ...
https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/3/16...-new-expansion
PC Gamer
The other major activity coming to Battle for Azeroth is Warfronts, massive 20-player ...
Once players reach level 120, they'll begin an all-out assault on the enemy through Warfronts.
Warfronts are centered around the Arathi Highlands and surrounding zones, with the first fight being for Stromgarde.
http://www.pcgamer.com/everything-yo...ext-expansion/
Plenty of articles on MMO-C as well.
I did hear "the first" alright, sure. I didn't hear "the only" at all and all the time I heard "warfronts", "warfronts", "warfronts", plural, instead of "warfront", singular.