Why Blizzard shouldn't listen to people with an active subscription.

[cqwrteur]

It's called a faulty generalization.

It is called truth.

[Polybius]

It is called truth.

Truths don't come from jumping to conclusions.

[Hctaz]

Oh noes, that terrible flying mount boogeyman...it ruined everything!

Ruined the entire ground content, yeah.

[cqwrteur]

Truths don't come from jumping to conclusions.

Conclusions? Well. What is the basic idea of Darwin's evolution? Community is just the result of surroundings.

[Azerate]

No, Blizzard shouldn't listen to people who created their accounts on a biggest fan-made forum about their game in July 2017, because they are either troll/fake accounts, or just utter newbs.

[Kazgrel]

Ruined the entire ground content, yeah.

It didn't, but ok. Not continuing down that path from here because that's a zombie horse that still being ridden around and beaten on this forum on a daily basis.

[Pantalaimon]

Why would they do otherwise?

Because there are idiots on the MMO-Champ forums asking them to put in features from retail, for some stupid unknown reason?

Some of the things that some players have wanted to get changed in Vanilla isn't for an unknown reason. Take class balance and talents for one example. In Vanilla you essentially had 'trap class specs' and 'trap talents', which many would define as not being vastly inferior, but would be labeled by those players as 'there for fun' or 'left in vanilla WoW for versatility sake'. When in all honesty, yes after you are level capped at 60 you need to avoid playing as a certain spec to be competitive in raiding and/or bgs, and you need to avoid talent choices that will significantly make your character worse at performing when fighting against/with players who didn't take them.

Not everything people have wanted for a better Vanilla were for the sake of convenience, but to not provide the illusion of many competitive choices. As it stands right now if Vanilla WoW is released in a purist form there will be classes that are only allowed to play competitively in one spec. I wouldn't call that an unknown reason to want that aspect changed.

[Polybius]

Conclusions? Well. What is the basic idea of Darwin's evolution? Community is just the result of surroundings.

Therein lies your problem. It isn't static and binary, just look at the threads popping up every minute. Not every Retail customer is out to get you, and there are non-Retail Vanilla advocates who want to change just as much to the end product. If you don't believe me look at Ornyx's survey. No changes to Vanilla gameplay.

[cqwrteur]

Think why internet forum is always filled with toxicity and trolling? Isn't it surroundings that advocate toxicity/trolling?

[Polybius]

Think why internet forum is always filled with toxicity and trolling? Isn't it surroundings that advocate toxicity/trolling?

I'm not sure you even realize what you're doing. Generalization is a practice of trolls.

Whatever the case, I'm done here. They've decided to listen to both customers and potential customers. In the end it's a business, and businesses take feedback from everyone.

[cqwrteur]

Therein lies your problem. It isn't static and binary, just look at the threads popping up every minute. Not every Retail customer is out to get you, and there are non-Retail Vanilla advocates who want to influence just as much change to the end product.

LOL. It isn't static which does not mean it is not relatively static. If you deny relatively static, you are against the basic law of physics.

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I'm not sure you even realize what you're doing. Generalization is a practice of trolls.

Generalization? LOL. That question even exists in Chinese Graduate National Exam. You think exam is trolling?

[Polybius]

LOL. It isn't static which does not mean it is not relatively static. If you deny relatively static, you are against the basic law of physics.

This isn't physics.

Generalization? LOL. That question even exists in Chinese Graduate National Exam. You think exam is trolling?

You don't understand what a fallacy in an argument is, do you?

[callipygoustp]

no democracy plz. Why should a game company care what their players QQ about when they make a new game? Let blizzard themselves decide what to do.

I have no problem with that. But, if they are going to watch a poll, I'd like to see it regimented a bit more.

[Doomchicken]

Dumb thread is dumb. Never change classic purists. Never change.

[cqwrteur]

This isn't physics.






You don't understand what a fallacy in an argument is, do you?

LOL. Fallacy in an argument. Hey!


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This isn't physics.

Nothing ISN'T physics. Or you wont have your internet connection to connect to this forum.

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Dumb thread is dumb. Never change classic purists. Never change.

LOL. Truth definitely never changes. Or it wont be truth.

Just go to debunk Einstein's relative theory because the law of physics changes over time. LOL

[Polybius]

LOL. Fallacy in an argument. Hey!

To summarize what you've said: "Current players are NOT willing to play on classic, which is what they told you during the past 10 years. They think classic wow is too bad to play."

Which is absolute bullshit. It's not impossible to enjoy two games.

[cqwrteur]

To summarize what you've said: "Current players are NOT willing to play on classic, which is what they told you during the past 10 years. They think classic wow is too bad to play."

Which is absolute bullshit. It's not impossible to enjoy two games.

Hey! You think this is bullshit? Same with old models. You think they are too bad and should be removed right right?

[Polybius]

Hey! You think this is bullshit? Same with old models. You think they are too bad and should be removed right right?

Where did I say that?

edit: or not, they removed the older ones on Retail

[cqwrteur]

Where did I say that?

P.S. Retail still has old models available.

PS: It doesn't. BE/NE/Draenei old models are gone.

[Polybius]

PS: It doesn't. BE/NE/Draenei old models are gone.

So where did I say I want old models removed? Or that I don't want to play Retail and Classic?