Punisher vs Batman

[the game]

Who would win in a fight? Punisher or Batman?

[Serpha]

Batman no doubt.

[Soulwind]

Whoever the writer wants.

But mostly Batman.

[ParanoiD84]

Im rooting for The Punisher my favorite.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

punisher really isn’t a big time guy and Batman has the ability to always win solely because he’s a favourite hero.

[jackofwind]

Batman has the strongest plot armor in the history of superheroes, so Batman.

He's so rich he can go toe to toe with actual gods. Can't beat that kind of wealth.

[Gallahadd]

Batman, with fair to middling ease. Punisher regularly gets his shit handed to him by people like Kingpin, Batman would curbstomp him in a fairly short amount of time.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Hahah good one, I did Deadpool vs Punisher, but then @Endus came in with this fucking kick ass break down of punisher.

I don't know, I am not going to take the cheap route and just saying Batman is just some rich dude and he has no skill. Every incarnation of Batman has always been pretty smart and adaptive.

I Really don't know much about Punisher, and if Endus take is accurate, I am going to go with Punisher, not just because of what Endus said but, I don't know what I already know of Punisher he doesn't fuck around, I not sure he would ever do this I know you know, I know you know you are Bruce Wayne shit.


And if Punisher is that serious and would go for Batman's jugular like that, I am going to say Batman has a problem two fold, because if Punisher is more than just a bloodthirsty killer but as methodical as stated. Not only will Punisher set the perfect trap for him my guess Punisher would make sure it was the unavoidable bait.

Batman has a way of falling into both

[RobertoCarlos]

Batman would use tech to disable his guns and it would be over pretty quick

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I'm going off of the best screen adaptations of each character: Christian Bale's portrayal of Batman from the Dark Knight trilogy, and John Bernthal's portrayal of the Punisher from Daredevil's second season (lost interest in Marvel's shows after that).

The thing is, the Punisher would be just an elite mook to Batman. The Punisher is skilled with firearms and takes advantage of basic jury rigging techniques, but that's about it. He's got no super human strength (he's comparable with Batman at best), he has the same awareness as a regular human being (though as a soldier, he knows the standard places to watch, but Batman's methods are anything but standard), and more importantly... he's just a lone man. No friends helping him out, no fancy tech except what he picked off the street or robbed from a small shop, no nadda.

The Batman on the other hand has not only been trained by an elite group of assassins, but has also been actively honing his craft for years. He fights elite mooks like the Punisher on a regular basis, and know how to deal with them. He has near Olympic levels of strength, bullet-proof body armor (except when Harvey shot him because the plot said so...), has unmatched mobility and access to any state of the art tool he may require, even experimental versions created exclusively for himself. Really, it just comes down to "Former marine with nothing from a realistic world" vs "Trained assassin with everything from an exaggerated world". Guess who wins.

[Ealyssa]

Batman contingency plans are his ultimate plot armor.

That wouldn't even be fair. Poor Punisher.

[Shadowferal]

Depends on whomever is writing them.
But both are skilled at hand-to-hand. Punisher is more akin to Bane though.

[Endus]

I'm going off of the best screen adaptations of each character: Christian Bale's portrayal of Batman from the Dark Knight trilogy, and John Bernthal's portrayal of the Punisher from Daredevil's second season (lost interest in Marvel's shows after that).

The thing is, the Punisher would be just an elite mook to Batman. The Punisher is skilled with firearms and takes advantage of basic jury rigging techniques, but that's about it. He's got no super human strength (he's comparable with Batman at best), he has the same awareness as a regular human being (though as a soldier, he knows the standard places to watch, but Batman's methods are anything but standard), and more importantly... he's just a lone man. No friends helping him out, no fancy tech except what he picked off the street or robbed from a small shop, no nadda.

The Batman on the other hand has not only been trained by an elite group of assassins, but has also been actively honing his craft for years. He fights elite mooks like the Punisher on a regular basis, and know how to deal with them. He has near Olympic levels of strength, bullet-proof body armor (except when Harvey shot him because the plot said so...), has unmatched mobility and access to any state of the art tool he may require, even experimental versions created exclusively for himself. Really, it just comes down to "Former marine with nothing from a realistic world" vs "Trained assassin with everything from an exaggerated world". Guess who wins.

This is truly unfair to Frank.

Yes, he's a regular dude. So is Batman. Batman was trained by elite assassins, but Frank started as spec-ops and has been training pretty much every day since then, even more than Batman, because Bruce Wayne sometimes goes to parties and runs a business. While Frank trains. The only time Frank isn't training is if he's on the job, or he's injured too badly to train. And that's about it.

They both do the same "track the target, analyse their patterns, find their weakness, exploit it" thing, to the extreme.

You can't seriously argue that the Marvel universe is a "realistic world". There's more crazypants stuff going on in Marvel than there is in DC; there were hundreds of mutants at least, in the Marvel setting, over and above the technological insanity from crazy inventors.

Frank wasn't just "a former Marine", he was also arguably the best sniper the Corps had ever seen, was specially trained over and above standard USMC training in independent operations and scouting. He was highly decorated during his time in the Corps, despite pissing off nearly all of his superiors, and went on to be part of a special group conducting black ops after his time in the Corps. He'll use armor just as freely as Batman will, and his weapons are generally not over-the-country types, but top-shelf military-grade hardware that Frank has personally customized and enhanced. He may not have Batman's funds, but he'll freely steal whatever he needs, even if he doesn't have any allies who'll help him out.

The Punisher is an "elite mook" in exactly the same sense that Batman is.

The big difference between the two is that Batman has limits. He won't kill his enemies. Frank will. Frank will put people down if they get in his way. He'll never get to a moment where he'll face an ethical conflict and hesitate.

If you put the two of them up against each other, I'd put it down to a coin toss at best, if not weighted slightly in Frank's favor, due to that last point.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Frank_Castle_(Earth-616)


Basing stuff off the Netflix series really isn't fair to Castle. That's basically Punisher finding his roots and getting started, not him at the height of his capacity.

[McFuu]

Punisher, Batman is a cry baby. Punisher isn't going to hesitate.

[Raptor With a Saber]

They have a comic of it. Batman wins but predator kicked batmans ass first time. Alfred shot it during 2nd.

[Shadowferal]

Well, there was a damn good reason why Castle went all sniper on a bunch of ninjas.

[the game]

This is truly

Basing stuff off the Netflix series really isn't fair to Castle. That's basically Punisher finding his roots and getting started, not him at the height of his capacity.

unfortunately that's the formula for these netflix series. Season 1 is the hero getting started. Second season they get to do more shit. They did the same shit with daredevil,

[WintersLegion]

They have a comic of it. Batman wins but predator kicked batmans ass first time. Alfred shot it during 2nd.

This is about The Punisher not Predator.

[draynay]

The big difference between the two is that Batman has limits. He won't kill his enemies. Frank will. Frank will put people down if they get in his way. He'll never get to a moment where he'll face an ethical conflict and hesitate.

Not unless the fight takes place in Riverdale

[The Oblivion]

unfortunately that's the formula for these netflix series. Season 1 is the hero getting started. Second season they get to do more shit. They did the same shit with daredevil,

yeah, i think its called the start to a show. LOL