People who want changes are the fragile ones

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People who can't cope with a harsher gaming environment, and need everything casualified otherwise they'll whine and complain about how OP or unbalanced things are.
Purists MUST maintain a fierce anti-SJW/anti-Snowflake stance at all costs.

[Vaelorian]

People who can't cope with a harsher gaming environment, and need everything casualified otherwise they'll whine and complain about how OP or unbalanced things are.
Purists MUST maintain a fierce anti-SJW/anti-Snowflake stance at all costs.

Someone read the US classic forums at Blizzard... saw that the word "fragile" triggers people... and thus this thread was made...

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OR...

...they are Classic players who realize that although Vanilla WoW was probably the best game they ever played and have been looking forward to play it again for ages, they aren't wearing the nostalgia glasses and remember the game was also hugely flawed and extremely frustrating. Despite being awesome and people not quitting in vanilla the forums back then were FILLED with whiners and complainers, but they still all loved the game.

Now it's a second chance to get to play vanilla again, but imagine if this time some of the super shitty features could get fixed!? Why wouldn't this huge segment of WoW's playerbase be vocal now?

We don't Count because we have functioning memories and can recall how bad some features of vanilla were? Or we don't Count because we don't enjoy Legion? Nah, not having that.

[Hottage]

OR...

...they are Classic players who realize that although Vanilla WoW was probably the best game they ever played and have been looking forward to play it again for ages, they aren't wearing the nostalgia glasses and remember the game was also hugely flawed and extremely frustrating.

Nah, clearly just fragile.

[Dhrizzle]

So asking for new models you can toggle on & off to attract new players is fragile?

AAAH what's the point....

That's just what a fragile SJW snowflake would say!

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Every QoL change you do will reduce the effort you put into the game and thus you will feel less of a reward from doing something.

Like back in vanilla when they changed flight masters so you could fly several steps in one click.. that was one major blow to the PVP community since you no longer could shut down central flight masters and corpse camp for hours.

Sure it was added during vanilla so I guess the correct path is to still add it to classic servers, however it should NOT be there from the start.

[Halyon]

Every QoL change you do will reduce the effort you put into the game and thus you will feel less of a reward from doing something.

Like back in vanilla when they changed flight masters so you could fly several steps in one click.. that was one major blow to the PVP community since you no longer could shut down central flight masters and corpse camp for hours.

Sure it was added during vanilla so I guess the correct path is to still add it to classic servers, however it should NOT be there from the start.

...on pvp servers. Not everyone plays there, or will have wpvp enabled in the future...so wtf does it matter then?

People who are for QoL of life changes have equal rights to be heard.

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...on pvp servers. Not everyone plays there, or will have wpvp enabled in the future...so wtf does it matter then?

People who are for QoL of life changes have equal rights to be heard.

I agree and so does everyone else, in fact there is a game somewhat similar to World of Warcraft where you can find QoL and they are looking for imput for new kinds of QoL changes. Go to the forums of WoW Legion and post all you want.

However, stay away from poisoning the minds of the ones who enjoy World of Warcraft.

[Halyon]

I agree and so does everyone else, in fact there is a game somewhat similar to World of Warcraft where you can find QoL and they are looking for imput for new kinds of QoL changes. Go to the forums of WoW Legion and post all you want.

However, stay away from poisoning the minds of the ones who enjoy World of Warcraft.

If you're worried about my comment 'poisoning' anyone's mind, then you're rather fragile...as OP's title suggests.

[cparle87]

Every QoL change you do will reduce the effort you put into the game and thus you will feel less of a reward from doing something.

Like back in vanilla when they changed flight masters so you could fly several steps in one click.. that was one major blow to the PVP community since you no longer could shut down central flight masters and corpse camp for hours.

Sure it was added during vanilla so I guess the correct path is to still add it to classic servers, however it should NOT be there from the start.

Didn't flight masters eat pvp'ers alive with large swarms of whatever creature they use as taxis?

[Flarelaine]

I agree and so does everyone else, in fact there is a game somewhat similar to World of Warcraft where you can find QoL and they are looking for imput for new kinds of QoL changes. Go to the forums of WoW Legion and post all you want.

However, stay away from poisoning the minds of the ones who enjoy World of Warcraft.

What, you cannot deal with differing opinions? Awww, the little snowflake.

[Deleted]

People who are for QoL of life changes have equal rights to be heard.

Haha no, Blizzard is not a democracy, vanilla means vanilla.

[Halyon]

Haha no, Blizzard is not a democracy, vanilla means vanilla.

What the defining features of vanilla was is up to the individual. Many individuals can have a very similar opinion. That's fine. But fuck off with your monopoly on opinions.

[Storfan]

So asking for new models you can toggle on & off to attract new players is fragile?

AAAH what's the point....

The point of CLASSIC servers isnt to attract a new crowd though, it's to get the old subs back into the fold.

OR...

...they are Classic players who realize that although Vanilla WoW was probably the best game they ever played and have been looking forward to play it again for ages, they aren't wearing the nostalgia glasses and remember the game was also hugely flawed and extremely frustrating. Despite being awesome and people not quitting in vanilla the forums back then were FILLED with whiners and complainers, but they still all loved the game.

Now it's a second chance to get to play vanilla again, but imagine if this time some of the super shitty features could get fixed!? Why wouldn't this huge segment of WoW's playerbase be vocal now?

We don't Count because we have functioning memories and can recall how bad some features of vanilla were? Or we don't Count because we don't enjoy Legion? Nah, not having that.

I've been playing vanilla (again) since 2012. It's not about rose tinted glasses for me. It's simply a better game than [Current expac]

[Alienshroom]

What the defining features of vanilla was is up to the individual. Many individuals can have a very similar opinion. That's fine. But fuck off with your monopoly on opinions.

Wrong. Why dont you spend all your days asking Blizzard to do a Mario Odyssey crossover with WoW in addition to having playable Master Chief and Chef Ramsey? That would be more realistic then pleasing every drifter dirtwad that comes in here with a worthless opinion on a game they never played just because they joined in WotLK. No two QoL lists are going to match. People are all just sharing their pipe dreams.

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People who can't cope with a harsher gaming environment, and need everything casualified otherwise they'll whine and complain about how OP or unbalanced things are.
Purists MUST maintain a fierce anti-SJW/anti-Snowflake stance at all costs.

1.12.1 is literally the definition of a fragile vanilla environment, atleast you tried i guess?

[Flurryfang]

Haha no, Blizzard is not a democracy, vanilla means vanilla.

But do you know what Vanilla means? Blizzard does not even know what Vanilla means, so maybe you should be a bit more careful about setting a status quo, when your interpretation of Vanilla might be different then theirs in the end.

Vanilla is clearly gonna be Vanilla, by the meaning, that the gameplay is gonna be the same and the world is not gonna be changed at all.. But the features are still up for grasp. As said before, Blizzard are very much aware, that they have an opportunity to actually improve their original product, to fix features, that were widely seen as broken, sucking or bugged. You would be a fool as a game dev, if you did not atleast think about using that opportunity to make an even better version of the original product.

[Halyon]

Wrong. Why dont you spend all your days asking Blizzard to do a Mario Odyssey crossover with WoW in addition to having playable Master Chief and Chef Ramsey? That would be more realistic then pleasing every drifter dirtwad that comes in here with a worthless opinion on a game they never played just because they joined in WotLK. No two QoL lists are going to match. People are all just sharing their pipe dreams.

I played in vanilla. Your fragility shows in your insulting padding.

[Rurin]

Same could be said about purists, being unable to cope with change of any kind...

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What the defining features of vanilla was is up to the individual.

Lol no, Vanilla is what Blizzard made during Vanilla times and not what you 'think' it is supposed to be.

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Blizzard does not even know what Vanilla means

They know, it means Wow from patch 1.0 to patch 1.12 before TBC