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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    Are you seriously trying to compare people who jaywalk, use torrents, or pirate a movie with people who are willing to travel hundreds of miles through hostile territory, climb walls or use tunnels, while constantly avoiding law enforcement officers? These people have already proven they are willing to go to any length to get what they want, do you really think they will balk at the laws of a country they're figuratively flipping a finger to?
    And you are trying to compare some who want a better/safer country to live in to those who commit violent crimes. Also, not all illegal's traveled hundreds of miles to cross the border. Many came here via plane.
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  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Not really its a fence and it has gaps all over and it doesnt cover much of the boarder at all.
    Thank God the world hasn't yet developed the sci-fi technology known as "ladders" and "ropes." It's why the rest of the world is still hardcore about building walls around their territory, just like they have been since the Middle Ages! Because that's how super effective they are in the modern fucking world! IMPENETRABLE!!!

  3. #183
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    Days later, cause of Border Patrol agent's death still unclear

    Unclear? If they'd come to mmo-c for some info they would already have their answers.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    Considering they already are committing a crime by being here illegally I highly doubt they have any respect for any of our other laws. "My son might be an arsonist but how dare you accuse him of tresspassing! He wouldn't do that!"
    Only they commit crimes at a lower rate than native born Americans.

    Last week Cato published a new immigration research and policy brief called “Criminal Immigrants: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin” that estimates the illegal immigrant incarceration rate—a subject long avoided in academic and policy research circles due to data limitations.

    Our headline finding is that both illegal immigrants and legal immigrants have incarceration rates far below those of native-born Americans—at 0.85 percent, 0.47 percent, and 1.53 percent, respectively. Excluding illegal immigrants who are incarcerated or in detention for immigration offenses lowers their incarceration rate to 0.5 percent of their population—within a smidge of legal immigrants. As a result, native-born Americans are overrepresented in the incarcerated population while illegal and legal immigrants are underrepresented, relative to their respective shares of the population.

    The relatively low number of incarcerated illegal immigrants places some immigration restrictionists in an uncomfortable position: choosing which myth to believe. The first myth is that illegal immigrants are especially crime-prone. The second myth is that there are actually two to three times as many illegal immigrants as is commonly reported. The usual number used by the government and most demographers is that there are 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States but a steady drumbeat of skeptics claim the real number is about 22 to 36 million.

    No matter how you dice the numbers, a larger illegal immigrant population in the United States means that their incarceration rate is even lower that what we report. Without adjusting for age, a total illegal immigrant population of 22 million would lower their incarceration rate to 0.56 percent using Cato’s estimate of the size of the incarcerated illegal immigrant population. Using the higher (and sillier) 36 million illegal immigrant population estimate by Ann Coulter lowers their incarceration rate to 0.34 percent.

    For the sake of argument, let me assume you do not like Cato’s numerical estimate of incarcerated illegal immigrants and you would prefer to use another estimate. The America American Survey form S2601B (2014 1-year sample) reports that there were 157,201 non-citizens in adult correctional facilities in 2014. That is the absolute maximum possible number of illegal immigrants incarcerated in that year. Using the ACS estimate lowers the illegal immigrant incarceration rate to 0.71 percent if the population is an estimated 22 million and to 0.44 percent if their total population is 36 million.

    Immigration restrictionists cannot have it both ways. They cannot assume that illegal immigrants are super-criminals and that their population in the United States is several times higher than it really is. No matter how you dice the numbers, their incarceration rate falls as their estimated population increases. For consistency’s sake, it’s time for immigration restrictionists to choose which myth they want to believe.
    https://www.cato.org/blog/immigratio...gal-immigrants
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    And you are trying to compare some who want a better/safer country to live in to those who commit violent crimes. Also, not all illegal's traveled hundreds of miles to cross the border. Many came here via plane.
    Considering this particular person was willing to bash someone's skull in to get his better/safer country are you trying to say he didn't commit a violent crime. And let's not forget all the illegal immigrants who drown in thrown together boats trying to cross the Mediterranean, but that's another story.
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