There were addons like that in the past, true but they were never that popular and, if I remember correctly, one was explicitly banned by Blizzard for creating too many requests at the time.
What curve? What gearscrore in vanilla? Ok, let's put it other way around. What does gearscore can even give you in terms of information in vanilla?
God Forbid putting people on your Friends List and not facerolling content.
God Forbid that we have:
- 1 - Tank Threat that is relevant
- 2 - CC in content that is relevant
- 3 - No LFR/LFD Tools
- 4 - Classes are unique and not homogenized.
- 5 - Professions have value.
- 6 - Content has longevity.
- 7 - There are no heirlooms and related items/mechanics
- 8 - There are no CRZ's.
- 9 - There are no Multiple "dificulty" levels on raids.
- 10 - Legendary items are not common and the design philosophy they were based on is not in the game.
- 11. - There are spell ranks.
- 12. - All original class spells are in game.
- 13. Certain specs such as Survival Hunter (melee/ranged hybrid) actually exist.
- 14. Azeroth and Kalimdor are unchanged.
- 15. Ammo and quivers are in the game.
- 17. There are talent trees.
- 18. Mana management is in game.
- 19. Aggro management is in game.
- 20. There are class quests.
- 21. Levelling experience is not trivialized.
- 22. Debuff limits are in place in boss fights.
Veteran vanilla player - I was 31 back in 2005 when I started playing WoW - Nostalrius raider with a top raid guild.
I've never liked the achievement system and hope that when Blizzard release Classic WoW it is not included.
As others have no doubt said, it would change the environment of the vanilla experience too much.
It's going to end up like it did in retail, have X achievement in order to join this group.
That's not how it worked at all and is a bad design going into classic.
You have to remember, less people are going to actually play classic (even less so actually getting 60 and raiding frequently) so achievements like that are going to splinter the already low amount of raiders by adding an extra hurdle.
If anything, it would be fun to add the achieves to the current x-pac (under a classic section) and only the things like getting level 60, getting a legendary, etc.
Heck, throw in a title like Classic XX or XX the Classic for leveling to 60 on classic for your current x-pac characters.
btw I'm all for classic and will play it and level to 60 and raid a bit if I can.
Yes it was possible. The breath could be LOS bugged for starters and Alliance could use stuff like Divine Intervention on tanks.
Molten Core requires Aqual Quintessences which needed Revered with Hydraxian Waterlords, nobody is getting revered in the first raid night.
BWL will be significantly more difficult, not slightly. The DPS check on Vaelestrasz is quite severe for an undergeared group, Razorgore shouldn't really take an awful lot of effort though.
After Vael we have Firemaw, Flamegor, and Ebonroc that require onyxia cloaks on the tanks at the very least. And then we have Chromaggus, whos colours can significantly alter the difficulty of the encounter.
BWL's big stumbling blocks to Nef are Vael, Firemaw, and Chromaggus.
Also, you are completely discounting the resistance requirements. Without resist on your raid for Ragnaros for example, your healers are going to be pressured quite significantly.
So while I'd agree that difficulty wise none of the encounters would pose much of a threat, we have very real gear and reputation checks that must be passed.
Other than Onyxia obviously, only ZG and AQ20 could really be cleared in one night because their checks are not as high as the other raids. I would only really expect the absolute best groups to be doing so though because even ZG and AQ20 have checks that require a certain level of gear to get over.
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Speciation Is Gradual
So you want achievements in vanilla? Really? gtfo plz
ITT:
People who haven't played Vanilla want features that weren't in Vanilla to be in Vanilla.
Remember kiddies, hope was the last evil in Pandora's box.
The only one here who's ignorant is the guy who thinks achievements somehow ruin Vanilla.
You enter raids with results not with funny jokes. If a guild wants experience achievements are the fastest, easiest way to prove you have it.again to what purpose? To make the social aspect easier?
Except this doesn't make the game easier at all and what you said is fucking stupid.Everything that makes the game easier is at its very core faulty
There is a difference between annoyance and difficulty. Shall we also leave the bugs that were in 1.1 because fixing them makes the game easier?
Learn to think. If you think Classic's going to have broken 1.1 talents you've got another thing coming.
Voodoo dolls being Unique, Libram of Rapidity being Unique, Blood of Heroes only dropping 1 and having a ridiculous cooldown, those are all shitty game designs that don't make the game harder, just more time consuming.
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You think you're getting 100% Vanilla?
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Do you want Vanilla or Wrath of the Lich King?
I'd rather have achievements than gear reservations and the latter will be in Vanilla for sure.
Why would it be wrong to want an experienced player over a noob who doesn't know what to do?
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Using features from other expansions isn't a bad thing as long as said features don't ruin the features of the one you're transferring them to.