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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Life imprisonment seems excessive in this case.
    Why? She killed a sleeping man who did nothing to her.

    Her story is tragic but she is still a murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Prostitution is already legal, heavily monitored and regulated in the USA. It's referred to as Pornography. Private sex is impossible to heavily monitor and regulate due to the very nature of private sex, and it's nature is the reason rape continues to be so very hard to prove happened (sans underage sex) - because the sex (rape) happens in private and only the persons involved in the sex (rape) can know the truth of what happened.
    What crissi said, I don’t see why they don’t make brothels a thing again or mabye even a come to your home service.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    Man this thread is just full of the 'hurr wiminz r evul' club.

    When are you boys going to grow up?
    Is that you declaring for the 'hurr minz r evul' club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    The "seriousness of the crime" is even more reason to not try her as an adult.
    I can’t say I agree some crimes should have people 16 and above I’d say tried as adults no Matter why they committed thoses crimes.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by A dot Ham View Post
    I also find it interesting that the reason she was tried as an adult was because, according to a court appointed child psychiatrist, she was "competent to stand trial" despite having "developmental delays due to fetal alcohol syndrome". That's what sucks about court appointed lawyers... win or lose they get paid, and if you're a shitty lawyer and you know it... its actually BETTER for your client if you DO screw something up, giving grounds for a retrial. Shitty justice system indeed.
    It simply should never be up for anyone to decide if they are tried as an adult at 16 years of age.
    The should be tried as a minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And since she's underage, that can quite possibly make it rape.

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    It's not really any different. She was underage, adn it can easily be shown that she was not a willing participant in it all.

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    I didn't say it was self defense, I said the circumstances surrounding it point towards rape.
    16 year olds can look like 18 year olds unless the guy knew she was 16 I wouldn’t say it was rape, though we will never know if he knew because he is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Why? She killed a sleeping man who did nothing to her.

    Her story is tragic but she is still a murderer.
    Because she’s most likely not fully mentally intact and sentences should be adjusted with such things taken into account.

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    She shot someone in the head whilst they were asleep. That is premeditated murder regardless of everything else.

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    So she was picked up by the client? Just her? No pimp? No one stopping her from calling the police while he was sleeping?

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    I can’t say I agree some crimes should have people 16 and above I’d say tried as adults no Matter why they committed thoses crimes.
    Absolutely not, 16 is a minor, no matter what they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Because she’s most likely not fully mentally intact and sentences should be adjusted with such things taken into account.
    They absolutely should.

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    she killed a sleeping man she willingly went with. she deserves to rot in prison or be put down.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    You're right. Let her free, I'm sure she'll never commit another crime and won't immediately go back to being a drug addicted prostitute.
    Take your cynicism elsewhere. Just because you're jaded and doubt people can make changes in their lives doesn't make it so.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    16 year olds can look like 18 year olds unless the guy knew she was 16 I wouldn’t say it was rape, though we will never know if he knew because he is dead.

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    Because she’s most likely not fully mentally intact and sentences should be adjusted with such things taken into account.
    They can look older, but it can still very easily be rape.

  13. #73
    Being convicted of murder doesn't mean you are a murderer. Killing another person doesn't mean you are a murderer. There are times where killing is justified.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    Being convicted of murder doesn't mean you are a murderer. Killing another person doesn't mean you are a murderer. There are times where killing is justified.
    Yes, so justified to shoot a sleeping man that's posing no threat to you. She deserves to rot in jail.

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    So instead of escaping or calling the cops she kills the dude? Sounds like she was high as fuuuck probably insane from her shitty life how unfortunate.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    Yes, so justified to shoot a sleeping man that's posing no threat to you. She deserves to rot in jail.
    Yes. Depending on what he had done and intended to do.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    Yes. Depending on what he had done and intended to do.
    Cute opinion, but you're wrong in the eyes of the law. You don't use lethal force unless you're in imminent danger. Go back to watching Punisher on Netflix to live out your power fantasies, child.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    Cute opinion, but you're wrong in the eyes of the law. You don't use lethal force unless you're in imminent danger. Go back to watching Punisher on Netflix to live out your power fantasies, child.
    Spoken like the truly sheltered. No good person who is deserving of health and wellbeing buys a forcibly addicted child to rape.

    You and so many others show your true face when topics like these arise.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    Spoken like the truly sheltered. No good person who is deserving of health and wellbeing buys a forcibly addicted child to rape.

    You and so many others show your true face when topics like these arise.
    He deserves jail too, but now he doesn't even have that chance. Someone acted as his judge and executioner already. I'm glad you're the paragon of righteousness we need, just like the Punisher!! It's so epic!! We should honestly just up the penalty for every crime to death, we'd save so many lives.

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    Saving a life can mean more than keeping someone's biological functions from ceasing.

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