Supreme Court allows full enforcement of Trump travel ban

[Trifle]

Have you actually tried to figure out under the tax plan how much more you will owe, if any? It is still not finalized, but the early estimates for myself is about 200 dollars less taxes I will have to pay. Not a large amount and certainly not the massive amount Trump has said. lol! But I will gladly take the 200 more bucks a year for myself and wife. The tax plan is going to be finalized this month, before Christmas. Instead of listening to the doomsayers, try to see how much you will save or owe more.

$200 less per year, while the tax cuts are still in effect... Just out of curiosity, have you run the numbers on what it will look like after the personal tax cuts expire ? What are you expecting it to look like at the end of the 10 years ?

[Thekri]

$200 less per year, while the tax cuts are still in effect... Just out of curiosity, have you run the numbers on what it will look like after the personal tax cuts expire ? What are you expecting it to look like at the end of the 10 years ?

Couldn't you talk about this in the thread that is actually about the tax bill? This is the Travel Ban thread, which is a completely separate Trump disaster, this one is about placating his base, the other one is about robbing them.

[Mormolyce]

So remind me, what was it the Trump Administration needed this time to "figure out"?

Oh right, they never advanced any reasoning for that.

It's better for everyone in the long run.

So you're happy with a travel ban that doesn't apply to any country that Islamic terrorists have actually come from?

[Mayhem]

The list contains a small minority of muslim nations, all of them who are failed states in various phases of revolution or anarchy. Want to call it a Muslim ban? Let me know when Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Indonesia, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Jordan, Lebanon, Bangladesh, and Nigeria are on the list.

Want to call it a security founded ban? Let me know when pakistan, uganda, kenya, congo and nigeria are added as they were the worst performing countries in the last wispi report. Oh and Russia should be on that list as well as it performed worse than Iran.

Or better yet, let me know when the countries that weren't included in the last report are added because one of the reasons they weren't included is the one you're stating here yourself, internal conflict.

[Kaleredar]

So you're happy with a travel ban that doesn't apply to any country that Islamic terrorists have actually come from?

It's not about doing something, it's about feeling something.

If a politician can make you feel something, they don't have to do anything, and can still pretend that they did because they paid you lip service and can complain that the other side is at fault when said poltician's lack of doing anything fails to... do anything.

[Anevers]

Yet, we allow the mentally unstable purchase guns. Logic.

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If only this ban was enforced before the Las Vegas attack, or the Texas church massacre...Oh wait.

We are more scared of the brown people who want to come in who are not like us, than the white ones who are already here and are fucking crazy and have the fire power to murder dozens in minutes. 'Murrica.

[Kiri]

So remind me, what was it the Trump Administration needed this time to "figure out"?

Oh right, they never advanced any reasoning for that.



So you're happy with a travel ban that doesn't apply to any country that Islamic terrorists have actually come from?

They needed 90 days to come up with and implement their 'extreme vetting'. But obviously they can't start doing that since that thinking team is also the team that has to fight those legal battles, apparently.

Other than that, it might just be that this implementation argument is just a thinly veiled ploy to just keep extending the ban, because getting a temporary ban in and extending that all the time is easier than getting a permanent (speak: until the next democrat comes in) one through.

[Garnier Fructis]

Have you actually tried to figure out under the tax plan how much more you will owe, if any? It is still not finalized, but the early estimates for myself is about 200 dollars less taxes I will have to pay. Not a large amount and certainly not the massive amount Trump has said. lol! But I will gladly take the 200 more bucks a year for myself and wife. The tax plan is going to be finalized this month, before Christmas. Instead of listening to the doomsayers, try to see how much you will save or owe more.

I did for the House plan. I expect to owe a few hundred more, and that's assuming that my university doesn't raise tuition. Cutting a meal a day is hyperbole for me. But not really for some of my colleagues, and many of my friends at other universities, whose "income" is suddenly going to be around $70k a year, which means they'll be paying thousands of extra dollars in tax. On the same stipend of about ~$20k. Simply paying for rent, food and taxes will cause them to lose money each year. I.e. they're being taxed for not being able to live off sunlight.

I mean, if Republicans wanted to fuck liberal arts majors and 'useless' degrees, they're doing a pretty ass job of it, since these changes affect primarily STEM.

[zenkai]

It hasn't been taken out of their hands, and this isn't a verdict. They want it to make its way through the lower courts so that they can properly decide on it by the end of June.

As per your article. Did you read it?

They took it out of the lower courts just randomly blocking, sorry I didn't spell it out for most of you, I figured you guy knew enough, my assumptions we're wrong.

[Ghostpanther]

They took it out of the lower courts just randomly blocking, sorry I didn't spell it out for most of you, I figured you guy knew enough, my assumptions we're wrong.

They do not want to admit it is a win for Trump.

On the Tax plan guys, I apologize for even bringing that up, as it is not related to the topic of this thread.

[Hobb]

It's the Supreme Court, what else was expected?

It stopped being a court of law a long time ago and is now just an extension of the republican party.

[Deleted]

So I know it is a little off topic, but was there even that many people that migrated to the US from those places? Especially Chad, because I have no idea why that country is on the list exactly?

[GennGreymane]

No like for real, are Pakistan and Saudi Arabia added?

[Ghostpanther]

It's the Supreme Court, what else was expected?

It stopped being a court of law a long time ago and is now just an extension of the republican party.

The Supreme Court at this time is equally balanced with Conservatives ( 4 ) to Liberals ( 4 ). Blame the one independent if you want to blame anyone. lol!

[Draco-Onis]

The Supreme Court at this time is equally balanced with Conservatives ( 4 ) to Liberals ( 4 ). Blame the one independent if you want to blame anyone. lol!

What independent? he votes republican 99% of the time.

[Ghostpanther]

No like for real, are Pakistan and Saudi Arabia added?

I do not think so. But I think they should have been. But the reason is clear. Oil. Pakistan we trade a lot with them. I think.

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What independent? he votes republican 99% of the time.

So he is a smart independent. lol!

[josykay]

No, because one is an actuall nuclear power with oil, and the others buy american arms in mass.
Now, Chechnya, Iraq, Egypt are fine as well. Totally unrelated to terrorism.

[Draco-Onis]

So he is a smart independent. lol!

Or in reality he is a republican.

[Hobb]

The Supreme Court at this time is equally balanced with Conservatives ( 4 ) to Liberals ( 4 ). Blame the one independent if you want to blame anyone. lol!

Now you're just being stupid there. It's been 5 conservatives to 4 democrats for the longest time.

[Ghostpanther]

Now you're just being stupid there. It's been 5 conservatives to 4 democrats for the longest time.

Wrong. The one justice is considered to be a independent. Just because he has ruled against your opinion, does not make him a conservative no more then the 2 liberal justices who ruled in favor of the religion case in Mo., conservative.