Trump announcing on Weds that USA recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel

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Have you ever wondered why they never did it?

Cowards?

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As I said before the only people think that this is a good move are either ignorant or those who want the mass slaughter of people. Ironically these blood thirsty people are no different than the terrorist they claim are so terrible and want to wipe out.

Beacuse there was peace before this right?

The palestinians was offred half of jerusalem, and they started an intifada for it . For the lulz right?
Call me ignorant, but you sir are delusional to think that this stands in the way of peace.

[zmp]

Trump is the American icon, leader and true face to the outside world

All hail President Trump, the 45th legitimate and true president of the USA.

[Garnier Fructis]

So trump is getting flack for something Clinton and bush wanted to do.
Not surprised

You really didn't think this through, lol.

[Stelio Kontos]

The Palestinians have rejected every offer Israel has made. They even rejected an offer that would have given them over 90% of the land they were demanding.

There was never going to be a peace deal, because the Palestinians wanted Israel entirely gone.

[Draco-Onis]

Beacuse there was peace before this right?

The palestinians was offred half of jerusalem, and they started an intifada for it . For the lulz right?
Call me ignorant, but you sir are delusional to think that this stands in the way of peace.

I was talking about the current situation where Israel was at the cusp of being recognized by the Arab world for the first time only for Trump to take a giant dump on it. There is no alternative but peace unless you want to celebrate victory over the radioactive dead bodies from what will be left in the middle east.

[wunksta]

The Palestinians have rejected every offer Israel has made. They even rejected an offer that would have given them over 90% of the land they were demanding.

Roughly 90% of West Bank that wasn't already settled. Not to mention that the way the area was divided up, it would still have been a disadvantage. Israel would still control roads and check points that would divide the West Bank even if the land was given up. Israel was also going to maintain a security control indefinitely over West Bank and Palestine would not have free access to international borders.

Keep in mind that the Arab League offered peace after all of this, in 2002 and 2007, in exchange for an end of the occupation but Israel rejected it.

[JohnBrown1917]

It's not criticism. It's people legitimately saying Isreal can't do this, Isreal has to do this, etc...

That is criticism if they explain why.
...and they do.

[McFuu]

That is criticism if they explain why.
...and they do.

No that's not criticism, that's backseat driving.

[Orlong]

Palestinians just called Dallas the capital of Mexico.

Of course that's a satire piece.

We wouldnt really care if they did as its only their opinion just like its OUR opinion that Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel. Additionally Palestine is NOT a country at all. Its a bunch of people from a REGION in the Middle East that WANT to be a country and take land from Israel to do so (really no different than ISIS, except ISIS did it in Syria and Iraq)

[Cthulhu 2020]

We wouldnt really care if they did as its only their opinion just like its OUR opinion that Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel. Additionally Palestine is NOT a country at all. Its a bunch of people from a REGION in the Middle East that WANT to be a country and take land from Israel to do so (really no different than ISIS, except ISIS did it in Syria and Iraq)

I think you got your names backwards.



Palestine has been losing ground to Israeli invasion and "settlements" for almost a century now. Time to pull your head out of the sand.

[unfilteredJW]

We wouldnt really care if they did as its only their opinion just like its OUR opinion that Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel. Additionally Palestine is NOT a country at all. Its a bunch of people from a REGION in the Middle East that WANT to be a country and take land from Israel to do so (really no different than ISIS, except ISIS did it in Syria and Iraq)

Orlong without a fucking clue as usual.

You used to be my favorite character around here, but sadly you just couldn't keep up.

[JohnBrown1917]

No that's not criticism, that's backseat driving.

Oh I get it now, you don't know what criticism is.

[Draco-Onis]

We wouldnt really care if they did as its only their opinion just like its OUR opinion that Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel. Additionally Palestine is NOT a country at all. Its a bunch of people from a REGION in the Middle East that WANT to be a country and take land from Israel to do so (really no different than ISIS, except ISIS did it in Syria and Iraq)

You aren't trying anymore you should look at Tijuana and try to improve you've become the satire of Orlong of old it's SAD!!!!

[Khaza-R]

We wouldnt really care if they did as its only their opinion just like its OUR opinion that Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel. Additionally Palestine is NOT a country at all. Its a bunch of people from a REGION in the Middle East that WANT to be a country and take land from Israel to do so (really no different than ISIS, except ISIS did it in Syria and Iraq)

Except you know the part where there is international law set forth by the UN recognizing Palestine and rejecting the annexation of East Jerusalem by Israel.

So yeah, you are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion just has no basis in reality

[McFuu]

Oh I get it now, you don't know what criticism is.

Criticism is being critical over an event, person, etc...

Telling a country how it should run because you don't like the way it runs isn't criticism. Being "critical" of how a country conducts business is criticism. What gets heaped on Isreal is people telling them they shouldn't do this or that, they are illegitimate, etc... None of that is criticism.

[wunksta]

they need to turn over their lands.

They do need to turn over land that was taken illegally.

Out of all the countries in the world everything Isreal does is constantly scrutinized, while they are surrounded by assholes on all sides with little help.

"little help"? Israel gets tons of support and probably more lenience that it deserves for how often it breaks international law. The US alone provides an average of $3 billion per year in military aid. Hell, we just set up a 10 year aid program to give Israel a total of $40 billion. How is that "little help".

No one condemning Iran when they call for death to all Jews, or Egypt,

Please, Iran for one is constantly condemned and ostracized by the rest of the international community for everything they've done.

[Gaidax]

"little help"? Israel gets tons of support and probably more lenience that it deserves for how often it breaks international law. The US alone provides an average of $3 billion per year in military aid. Hell, we just set up a 10 year aid program to give Israel a total of $40 billion. How is that "little help".

That's also less than 1% of Israel's GDP, for comparison. Egypt - the renown champion of Middle East human rights got $72 billion so far in "aid", for example. Yearly they were getting comparable sums, they just lately decided to execute a bit too much protesters, so US temporarily halted aid, but seems like is about to resume it.

This "aid" is just a way for US to have influence in the region, it is a nice lump of money for sure, but let's not pretend it's what saves Israel or something, shall we?

It's not free money, it's "you do what we say, or else you won't get money" kind of money here.

[Polyxo]

They do need to turn over land that was taken illegally.



"little help"? Israel gets tons of support and probably more lenience that it deserves for how often it breaks international law. The US alone provides an average of $3 billion per year in military aid. Hell, we just set up a 10 year aid program to give Israel a total of $40 billion. How is that "little help".



Please, Iran for one is constantly condemned and ostracized by the rest of the international community for everything they've done.

Not to mention the stolen IP Israel's economy's based on.

[wunksta]

That's also less than 1% of Israel's GDP, for comparison. Egypt - the renown champion of Middle East human rights got $72 billion so far in "aid", for example. Yearly they were getting comparable sums, they just lately decided to execute a bit too much protesters, so US temporarily halted aid, but seems like is about to resume it.

It's about 1 billion to the Egypt per year. If you've read, Israel also supports this aid to Egypt.

This "aid" is just a way for US to have influence in the region, it is a nice lump of money for sure, but let's not pretend it's what saves Israel or something, shall we?

Of course it's there for influence in the region, which also benefits Israel. Why is this a problem? And if it's such a small amount, why does Israel ask for this aid?

[Gaidax]

Of course it's there for influence in the region, which also benefits Israel. Why is this a problem? And if it's such a small amount, why does Israel ask for this aid?

It's a nice sum of money after all, so why not?

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Not to mention the stolen IP Israel's economy's based on.

Israel economy is based on many things and "stolen IP" is not one of them, for example whole "bridge" architecture line of modern processors offered by Intel was developed in Israel, modern Intel CPUs extend on that. That's just one example of high tech sector power in Israel created and homegrown. Sandy Bridge architecture codename is literally "Bridge" in Hebrew.

Meanwhile Palestinians developed only new and exciting ways to kill people, for example.