Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

[Battlewrath]

So advertising can do what they wish with near nudy scenes, but some chick doing squats is too much?

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In recent weeks, high-profile streamers have complained about Twitch's tolerance of these women and for doing a "poor job" of policing the growing amount of sexual content on the site.

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Mr Bonnell is one of a small number of streamers with large, dedicated audiences that have quizzed Twitch about why it is not enforcing the letters of its laws - specifically its community guidelines.

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Streamer Amouranth said the slew of complaints and comment on social media had led Twitch to step up its enforcement efforts. It has handed out short-term suspensions to streamers reported to be breaking the guidelines.

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Her comments were echoed by streamer Anne Munition who said Twitch needed to be more explicit about what counted as acceptable behaviour in many different categories, not just those involving "sexual streamers".

TLDR: Streamers whining about the competition, wrapping it in the excuse of "community guidelines".

This is just economic lobbying by a handful of streamers who are attempting to monopolize and monetize the Twitch streaming market for themselves. Viewers are limited in numbers and attention, streamers are not. They're the easily replaced products and they know it. Their objections have nothing to do with the actual content of other people's streams. 'Erotic' streamers are just the easiest target because few people will publically defend them.

Anyone debating Twitch's community guidelines in reference to the above streamers is just being suckered into their lobbying.

[bladeXcrasher]

Why? Twitch is advertising itself as Family Friendly... If they want tits too they need Parental Control like YouTube

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Does Twitch say for 16+ ?

Then why are you bitching about it?

[Deleted]

Not that I'm aware, but if you watched streamers even semi-regularly you'd know 99% of them do not cater for children

Then Twitch need to say whether it's a M site or not. I don't care either way but obviously if they're having underage members then anything remotely sexual will be controversial.

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Then why are you bitching about it?

Having a conversation isn't bitching

[Mister Cheese]

call them out on what bullshit exactly? I genuinely don't understand the problem unless you're a puritan who wants women to cover ankles and all

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/11/st...men-on-twitch/

It's kotaku. Sue me.

Last week, streamer Trainwreck got handed a five-day suspension by Twitch after a video went viral featuring an incendiary rant against women streamers, in which he called them things like "god damn sluts" and accused them of stealing views from those who he viewed as more deserving streamers.

This poured gasoline on a fire that's been slowly growing ever since Twitch's non-gaming "IRL" section launched last year.

"This used to be a god damn community of gamers, nerds, kids that got bullied, kids that got fucked with, kids that resorted to the gaming world because the real world was too fucking hard, too shitty, too lonely, too sad and depressing," Trainwreck said in a voice that landed somewhere between a seethe and a roar.

As he saw it, IRL streaming made Twitch the domain of "the same sluts that rejected us, the same sluts that chose the god damn cool kids over us. The same sluts that are coming into our community, taking the money, taking the subs, the same way they did back in the day."

Twitch's enforcement of its rules is opaque. The company unilaterally refuses to comment on suspensions and bans, frequently leaving people in the dark as to why streamers get tossed in the digital slammer and, especially, the factors that contributed to the exact duration of their sentence.

This lack of information leaves room for all sorts of wild speculation, as exemplified by an incident that happened in the immediate aftermath of Trainwreck's suspension. As Polygon reports, a streamer named Nyakkj was recently caught masturbating on stream and received a brief 24-hour suspension. People were quick to compare this to Trainwreck's lengthier suspension.

Is he right to go on a rant this way? Probably not. Doesn't make his opinion any less wrong though. There is a blatant double standard because these obvious camgirls are making the site way more money. And it is ruining the site as a whole.

[fh62bf6]

TLDR: Streamers whining about the competition, wrapping it in the excuse of "community guidelines".

This is just economic lobbying by a handful of streamers who are attempting to monopolize and monetize the Twitch streaming market for themselves. Viewers are limited in numbers and attention, streamers are not. They're the easily replaced products and they know it. Their objections have nothing to do with the actual content of other people's streams. 'Erotic' streamers are just the easiest target because few people will publically defend them.

Anyone debating community guidelines is just being suckered into someone's lobbyism.

To be fair, if Twitch develops a disreputable reputation because of such streams then most other streamers will take a hit. They have a vested interest in maintaining Twitch's already shaky image.

[Dispraise]

Meh. If that's what people want to watch, let 'em. And more power to any young women out there who have found they can make an easy buck playing video games with their shirt open. Would that I could do the same.

In the end, it's up to Twitch what they want to allow on their platform.

[Zelk]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/11/st...men-on-twitch/

It's kotaku. Sue me.



Is he right to go on a rant this way? Probably not. Doesn't make his opinion any less wrong though. There is a blatant double standard because these obvious camgirls are making the site way more money.

So he got banned for being a misogynist piece of shit then. Shame it wasn't permanent.

[Mister Cheese]

So he got banned for being a misogynist piece of shit then. Shame it wasn't permanent.

You don't know what he was banned for.

[Player Twelve]

So he got banned for being a misogynist piece of shit then. Shame it wasn't permanent.

What did he do that is misogynistic?

[Magicpot]

Meh, I'd say you can just not watch it. What about camgirls on twitch disturbs you so much? They've been a thing for ages...

[Ryme]

Once the advertisers take notice, then Twitch will take action. Right now it's just printing money for Twitch and the streamer.

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"This used to be a god damn community of gamers, nerds, kids that got bullied, kids that got fucked with, kids that resorted to the gaming world because the real world was too fucking hard, too shitty, too lonely, too sad and depressing," Trainwreck said in a voice that landed somewhere between a seethe and a roar.

Is he right to go on a rant this way? Probably not. Doesn't make his opinion any less wrong though. There is a blatant double standard because these obvious camgirls are making the site way more money. And it is ruining the site as a whole.

Trainwreck: "waaah waaah waaah ... other people are stealing viewers that are mine by divine right ... waaah waaah waaah ... look at me being an outcast"

[Mistame]

Then Twitch need to say whether it's a M site or not. I don't care either way but obviously if they're having underage members then anything remotely sexual will be controversial.

Fun fact: Women wear thong bikinis and barely-there bikini tops on public beaches with children every day. Additionally, plenty of shows rated PG have much skimpier clothing that what these streamers are wearing.

[Zelk]

What did he do that is misogynistic?

read the article

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Once the advertisers take notice, then Twitch will take action. Right now it's just printing money for Twitch and the streamer.

Advertisers don't care. Payment processors do. They're the ones shutting things down if companies don't comply with their content censorship demands. They're the ones attacking adult content and adult communities at every turn.

[Player Twelve]

read the article

I did, can you point out what is misogynistic?

[Mistame]

read the article

Calling women who dress "slutty" "sluts" is not "misogyny".

[Deleted]

To be fair, if Twitch develops a disreputable reputation because of such streams then most other streamers will take a hit. They have a vested interest in maintaining Twitch's already shaky image.

Because everyone knows adult content is bad for business, right?

/sarcasm off

[Zelk]

Calling women who dress "slutty" "sluts" is not "misogyny".

It is actually, so is being angry that a woman wouldn't fuck you.