Australian police to bill Milo $50k over protests

[Pann]

again, they should have thought about that before committing crime.

and clearly, you didnt read the thread title

Who? Thought about what? Why would anyone need to think about being fined if they are imprisoned?

I've read through the thread and no speaker was fined. Perhaps you have confused this with some other time a speaker was fined?

[truckboattruck]

Who? Thought about what? Why would anyone need to think about being fined if they are imprisoned?

I've read through the thread and no speaker was fined. Perhaps you have confused this with some other time a speaker was fined?

yes im aware of the word play bullshit youre trying here.
you have no interest is approaching this honestly

"bill" the rioters not the speaker

[Pann]

yes im aware of the word play bullshit youre trying here.
you have no interest is approaching this honestly

"bill" the rioters not the speaker

I am not trying to play any word bullshit, it is difficult to know what you are talking about as your posts are somewhat abstract.

Bill the rioters (are you talking about something else as I cannot find any reference to riots taking place) for what? I would guess that option of civil recovery is open to those who suffer damage due to a rioter's actions thus it is likely already possible to bill them.

[truckboattruck]

I am not trying to play any word bullshit, it is difficult to know what you are talking about as your posts are somewhat abstract.

Bill the rioters (are you talking about something else as I cannot find any reference to riots taking place) for what? I would guess that option of civil recovery is open to those who suffer damage due to a rioter's actions thus it is likely already possible to bill them.

again more word play.
you are trying to avoid equating "violent protesters" with "rioters"
there is no such thing as a violent protest

[Pann]

again more word play.
you are trying to avoid equating "violent protesters" with "rioters"
there is no such thing as a violent protest

I'm not trying to avoid anything. I am simply going on what has been reported and there are no reports of any riot taking place. Of course there are such things as violent protests; for example there are a number going on in the world after Trump's recent comments regarding Israel. And with regard to this story it is reported that there were a number of arrests due violent protests.

I really do not see the issue you're having with all this; some people broke the law and were arrested for it - it seems to me that everything is working as intended.

[truckboattruck]

I'm not trying to avoid anything. I am simply going on what has been reported and there are no reports of any riot taking place. Of course there are such things as violent protests; for example there are a number going on in the world after Trump's recent comments regarding Israel. And with regard to this story it is reported that there were a number of arrests due violent protests.

I really do not see the issue you're having with all this; some people broke the law and were arrested for it - it seems to me that everything is working as intended.

the moment anything or anyone gets damaged its not a protest, its a mob. and deserves to be scattered

my issue is that the wrong parties are being fined, for political reasons

[Pann]

the moment anything or anyone gets damaged its not a protest, its a mob. and deserves to be scattered

my issue is that the wrong parties are being fined, for political reasons

A mob would imply many people it is perfectly possible that a few people can be violently protesting. I would guess that the Australian police, like police forces here in the UK, aim to arrest (either then and there or at a later date after examining available evidence) those who cause damage whilst protesting and at the same time disperse the crowds. Therefore your concerns regarding violent mobs/protests have already been addressed as you suggest.

At this early stage I doubt many of those who were arrested have had their cases heard by a court so their punishment remains unknown but I would imagine that the less serious offenders have been issued with fines or cautions. I would certainly not refer to those who are fined for breaking the law as the wrong parties being fined.

[truckboattruck]

A mob would imply many people it is perfectly possible that a few people can be violently protesting. I would guess that the Australian police, like police forces here in the UK, aim to arrest (either then and there or at a later date after examining available evidence) those who cause damage whilst protesting and at the same time disperse the crowds. Therefore your concerns regarding violent mobs/protests have already been addressed as you suggest.

At this early stage I doubt many of those who were arrested have had their cases heard by a court so their punishment remains unknown but I would imagine that the less serious offenders have been issued with fines or cautions. I would certainly not refer to those who are fined for who breaking the law as the wrong parties being fined.

if they need extra police it is a mob

[Pann]

if they need extra police it is a mob

What? Using this definition people attending a football match would be a mob. Or those going to a concert would also be a mob. A parade - mob! New Year's celebration - mob!

[Magnagarde]

The police is already being paid through the country's budget and the annual budget is written up in advance.

Why should anyone pay for something that the police is already being paid to do. Does that mean I should be paid for each and every unpredictable situation that forces a patient to come through? Should firefighters be paid extra each time a fire breaks out because the budget didn't predict it?

[truckboattruck]

What? Using this definition people attending a football match would be a mob. Or those going to a concert would also be a mob. A parade - mob! New Year's celebration - mob!

sir, at this point you are simply making excuses for bad behavior

[Pann]

sir, at this point you are simply making excuses for bad behavior

I am? Where? When? I am, as I have already said, fully supportive of those who broke law facing a punishment deemed appropriate by Australian law. You said it if extra police are needed then it is a mob, all the events I listed above require extra policing and thus according to you would fit the definition of a mob.

[truckboattruck]

I am? Where? When? I am, as I have already said, fully supportive of those who broke law facing a punishment deemed appropriate by Australian law. You said it if extra police are needed then it is a mob, all the events I listed above require extra policing and thus according to you would fit the definition of a mob.

this entire time, "derp its not a riot, derp its not a mob, derp you can be violent at a protest derp you shouldnt be fined and receive jail time"

[Pann]

this entire time, "derp its not a riot, derp its not a mob, derp you can be violent at a protest derp you shouldnt be fined and receive jail time"

I am sorry, I thought I was helping you out by explaining what words mean. I have never once said derp or that those who broke the law should not face the appropriate punishment, I mean I even wrote that I supported them being punished in the very post you quoted but somehow you appear to have missed that.

[truckboattruck]

I am sorry, I thought I was helping you out by explaining what words mean. I have never once said derp or that those who broke the law should not face the appropriate punishment, I mean I even wrote that I supported them being punished in the very post you quoted but somehow you appear to have missed that.

you have contrived your entire opinion solely on the basis of semantics. sense you have no real position other than to counter mine.

[Pann]

you have contrived your entire opinion solely on the basis of semantics. sense you have no real position other than to counter mine.

What? That makes no sense, it is almost as if you have typed a bunch of words which you think sound clever but paid no heed as to whether those words form a coherent sentence. Unlike you I have based my opinion on what has been reported and what the words used in the reports actually mean.

[truckboattruck]

What? That makes no sense, it is almost as if you have typed a bunch of words which you think sound clever but paid no heed as to whether those words form a coherent sentence. Unlike you I have based my opinion on what has been reported and what the words used in the reports actually mean.

so basically you just admitted that you dont know what youre talking about.
and you dont have an opinion, you just play coy

[cparle87]

The Australian State of Victoria is run by a Socialist leadership who have some stupid laws like:

its illegal to wear Pink Pants on Sunday afternoon in Melbourne.
And For men only: if you appear on the street in a "dress without straps", you're breaking the law.

So Alt Right Milo getting a bill for the police call out in Melbourne does not surprise me.

However in Sydney which is in the more conservative state of NSW a similar protest occurred where Milo spoke.
6 members of the Socialist left where arrested. And Milo never got a bill.

You'll love this.

http://www.dumblaws.com/

I live in California but here's a few.

It’s unlawful to let a dog pursue a bear or bobcat at any time.
In San Jose and Sunnyvale it is illegal for grocery stores to provide plastic bags.
You may only throw a frisbee at the beach in Los Angeles County, CA with the lifeguard’s permission.
It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.
Women may not drive in a house coat.
Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.

[Celista]

I am thoroughly enjoying Milo's decline into obscurity, just saying.

[Emode]

Lets not blame the 'violent protesters'.