Calls for Twitch to police 'sexual streaming'

[Drusin]

You should have to have a degree or vocational training in order to get paid for streaming, you need them for everything else.

Hm, tell me more.

Also I'd like to add that if people want to waste their money on something that's their business.

[msdos]

Sounds like jealousy. There's a reason certain streamers get significantly more subscriptions than others, and you can't claim tits because the majority of the highest grossing streamers are male. And there's a reason that a ton of streamers scrape the bottom and can't even reach stable income. There's maybe fifty tops (out of hundreds of thousands of streamers) who get by with excellent game-play alone. Others are genuinely entertaining or charismatic. You'll never see Admiral Bahroo in e-sports, but he's fucking hilarious, engages with his audience and finds funny ways to break games or do silly shit, and he doesn't need a degree or vocational training to justify people blowing money on him over random Joe Schmoes.

I don't care about the boobs thing, my post wasn't aimed at females streaming, my post was aimed at everyone who attempts to stream.

Your post says a lot, but doesn't even come a rabbit's hair close to answering my question which is why streaming was ever monetized in the first place. Okay cool, Admiral Bahroo can get paid to be a funny, entertaining clown, but why? Why are we giving children entertainers paychecks?

Do you really believe it's jealousy if you see someone open a Patreon and ask for money for no reason? Don't confuse jealousy with outrage. If you had dignity you would think twice about doing something like that yourself.

Hm, tell me more.

Also I'd like to add that if people want to waste their money on something that's their business.

Yes, this is obvious information. But why is it Twitch's business to pay these people? Now you begin to see why the boob streaming is allowed if you even bother going down the rabbit hole.

[Azadina]

What part of I DON'T CARE EITHERWAY is difficult to understand? If Twitch want busty babes then let 'em but they need to be transparent. They should just allow it and add a disclaimer

The part where you saying it is entirely unconvincing based on the thread content.

[Reivur]

I don't care about the boobs thing, my post wasn't aimed at females streaming, my post was aimed at everyone who attempts to stream.

Your post says a lot, but doesn't even come a rabbit's hair close to answering my question which is why streaming was ever monetized in the first place. Okay cool, Admiral Bahroo can get paid to be a funny, entertaining clown, but why? Why are we giving children entertainers paychecks?

Do you really believe it's jealousy if you see someone open a Patreon and ask for money for no reason? Don't confuse jealousy with outrage. If you had dignity you would think twice about doing something like that yourself.

They don't all have Patreons or give sob stories for starters. But you pretty much answered the question yourself; he's paid because he's a funny, entertaining clown. Why are fictional books as a medium okay? Why is stand-up comedy okay? Why are movies okay? They're all different mediums of entertainment. Streaming, at least Bahroo's style is as close to a prop comedian as you can get on the internet and he does very well with his props, and so he gets support.

If the others aren't okay for receiving payment as well, then at least I'll find you consistent. But if you think those are fine and this medium isn't, then there's really no where else for the conversation to go beyond "You don't value that". After all, you're already being condescending about it by referring to it as children entertainers, while being unaware of what kind of comedy it is or isn't.

[Orange Joe]

So they enforce their rules. What exactly are you complaining about then? Let me guess, all the ones that you want banned, but they aren't being banned when they break no rules.

Well no, They enforce the rules on small streamers but not large ones like legendaryleah.

[omfgreally]

Men make a place to watch video games.
Women scream all day everyday about "Stop objectifying me!"

Men play games.
Women sell their bodies...

Somethings not quite right here.

[msdos]

They don't all have Patreons or give sob stories for starters. But you pretty much answered the question yourself; he's paid because he's a funny, entertaining clown. Why are fictional books as a medium okay? Why is stand-up comedy okay? Why are movies okay? They're all different mediums of entertainment. Streaming, at least Bahroo's style is as close to a prop comedian as you can get on the internet and he does very well with his props, and so he gets support.

If the others aren't okay for receiving payment as well, then at least I'll find you consistent. But if you think those are fine and this medium isn't, then there's really no where else for the conversation to go beyond "You don't value that". After all, you're already being condescending about it by referring to it as children entertainers, while being unaware of what kind of comedy it is or isn't.

Don't let my word usage emotionally affect you, not sure why it is, you're acting like I'm attacking you.

"Why are fictional books as a medium okay? Why is stand-up comedy okay? Why are movies okay?" This is vague, what does "okay" mean here? Keep it in perspective, the reason those creators get paid is because they went to college and technical schools for that stuff, they perform, you surely aren't about to ignore that are you? Also, the mediums in which that entertainment is produced also required people with degrees.
Twitch is a cheap streaming site that pays out money to losers.

These streamers are influencing children and we're paying them.

This medium is "fine", but paying these people is not "fine".

[Daedius]

It's up to people to report it... Twitch can't realistically monitor things live...

[Azadina]

Well no, They enforce the rules on small streamers but not large ones like legendaryleah.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/204242204

First that I came across by looking. So you, like Adam think tank top = topless porn?

[Orange Joe]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/204242204

First that I came across by looking. So you, like Adam think tank top = topless porn?

Thats just 2 instances that I know of of the top of my head.





Though I guess it did earn her a small 30 day ban, when other have gotten 90 days or more for similar things.

[kamikaze148]

Don't let my word usage emotionally affect you, not sure why it is, you're acting like I'm attacking you.

"Why are fictional books as a medium okay? Why is stand-up comedy okay? Why are movies okay?" This is vague, what does "okay" mean here? Keep it in perspective, the reason those creators get paid is because they went to college and technical schools for that stuff, they perform, you surely aren't about to ignore that are you? Also, the mediums in which that entertainment is produced also required people with degrees.
Twitch is a cheap streaming site that pays out money to losers.

These streamers are influencing children and we're paying them.

This medium is "fine", but paying these people is not "fine".

Good lord, what does having a degree/pedigree have any bearing on your entertainment value whatsoever?. Michael Fassbender, Leonardo Dicaprio, Tom Hanks, these are all extremely well known people who's job it is to entertain, and all are applauded for there ability in that field, but all are college/acting school drop outs. I understand your point includes the producers, directors and behind the scenes people in this industry, but the point here is why should someone with a slip of paper automatically mean they are worthy of being considered entertaining?.

Streamers need to eat too, and if people want to show there appreciation in a monetary value for the content they provide as a full time career...why shouldn't they?. Your also implying that these people just sit there and roll there face on the keyboard and make fart noises or something. Streamers worth watching will have some quality about there stream that is absolutely worth watching and donating to. Be it entertaining content, skill in a game, an infectious personality etc

[Azadina]

Thats just 2 instances that I know of of the top of my head.





Though I guess it did earn her a small 30 day ban, when other have gotten 90 days or more for similar things.

So, let me see if I get it right. That's "porn", and them banning someone for that, equals them not enforcing rules on the ones they ban? Does that seem to sum it up? Not to mention, still haven't quite seen evidence of the topless shows, that Adam seemed to imply exist enough to be a problem.

[Orange Joe]

So, let me see if I get it right. That's "porn", and them banning someone for that, equals them not enforcing rules on the ones they ban? Does that seem to sum it up? Not to mention, still haven't quite seen evidence of the topless shows, that Adam seemed to imply exist enough to be a problem.

Where did I ever say it was porn? Stop putting what other people say as what I'm saying.


My point has been and always will be they need to clarify the rules and apply them equally.

[Azadina]

Where did I ever say it was porn? Stop putting what other people say as what I'm saying.


My point has been and always will be they need to clarify the rules and apply them equally.

Seems to me the rules are clear, and they enforce them. You even went and linked video yourself where rule breaking was punished. Funnily enough, right after you claimed that big names like the person don't get rules enforced on them.

The only thing here seems to be people being outraged about tank top streamers showing some cleavage, and going to ridiculous lengths like calling it "topless" "porn" "mature content" and whatever else, while it's none of that. Applying those words to whatever content one doesn't like, without understanding what the word even means, doesn't help much.

[Mistame]

Can't believe people are still running off about chics showing cleavage. It's not "porn", rated "R" or even "inappropriate". Grow up.

[the game]

Seems to me the rules are clear, and they enforce them. You even went and linked video yourself where rule breaking was punished. Funnily enough, right after you claimed that big names like the person don't get rules enforced on them.

The only thing here seems to be people being outraged about tank top streamers showing some cleavage, and going to ridiculous lengths like calling it "topless" "porn" "mature content" and whatever else, while it's none of that. Applying those words to whatever content one doesn't like, without understanding what the word even means, doesn't help much.

No you don' t understand. The rules weren't enforced enough on her. She should've gone to jail for it.

[Zephyr Storm]

Honestly, all I hear now is “I’m a desperate guy who can’t control my actions, so you need to remove these women for my sake!”.

Yeah, no. I can just about guarantee most of these complaints are coming from other female streamers who are either to fat/ugly to take advantage of all this or are simply not willing to do this themselves. Basically, it's a bunch of jealous bitches who are pissed at other bitches showing off their bodies and making money from it.

This has been going on since time immemorial. It's just that Twitch is a newer way of doing it.

[Darkeon]

It only is because of history. Go to South America, the Caribbean and other parts of Europe that aren't the UK and boobs are not sexual and toplessness is accepted for women.

... and slavery is allowed in some of the most tribal areas.

[Mistame]

She should've gone to jail for it.

Gone to jail for what?

Yeah, no. I can just about guarantee most of these complaints are coming from other female streamers who are either to fat/ugly to take advantage of all this or are simply not willing to do this themselves. Basically, it's a bunch of jealous bitches who are pissed at other bitches showing off their bodies and making money from it.

Save those on here who seem to be Puritans.

[the game]

Gone to jail for what?

Exactly...