The fact that lesser guilds can't class stack the fuck out of fights like Coven means they will take far more time to be 10/11 regardless. And looking at Argus, he doesn't seem particularly melee or ranged unfriendly, and if you need a particular utility right now, that usually gets nerfed later down the road (IE KJ's balls no longer required Stampeding Roar or rocket jump). My guild didn't make the ranged switch for Nighthold, didn't make the non-Rogue melees switch for ToS, and got CE both times. I'm not worried, and prefer to see Antorus tuning to stupid ass ToS tuning any day.
Is Furty correct to say that the US raiding scene is juvenile?
The US raiding scene isn't any more juvenile than other places, the difference is is that you're hearing it from someone who is probably cutting their losses as far as looking for any kind of future in the NA raiding scene so they're trying to get the last word in as they walk out the door.
"you guys are just juvenile anyway!!!" when realistically all NA and EU players i've interacted with are more or less the same personality wise
Originally Posted by Bigbazz
IDK having hung around with guilds like DNO/spk/fused/vodka/ect .. and having dealt with players from limit/encore/ect In Sales groups/M+/ect........ the only "top" guild that isn't full of Mongoloids that drop N bombs all day and act like immature teenagers are Vodka..... So I highly doubt that the EU's are as awful personality wise as the US scene which had devolved into a bunch of memers and most of the top guilds would quit raiding if blizzard actually found a way to stop them selling cash sales all day outside progression....
And yes before you start insulting me yes i'm a horrible human being who once got kicked out of a guild for threatening to drive across state lines and kick an officers ass and yes ive been in 6 of the current top 20 US guilds having been kicked out for being toxic/left all of them... So i'm not saying i'm any better than half the raiding scene but the truth is the top end raiding scene in the US has devolved into a bunch of now 20-30's yo's who act like 16yo Memers all day and say whatever they want while most hate this game at this point but stay around because they make decent cash doing sales that blizz don't stop.
Last edited by Moshots; 2017-12-11 at 12:14 AM.
Neither, though I do troll most of the time. There are decent guilds in NA, but the entire raiding scene is plagued by the dumbest clique bullshit of immature teens and early twenty somethings, who all favor friends over actually trying to win. Then people have conversations about NA losing every single tier in threads like this. From that perspective, there really isn't a good guild in NA, nothing even close to Method. I know Limit doesn't raid as much as Method, but I'm still quite confident they wouldn't be competitive with them even if they did.
Being better than most people is hardly a feat. I'm good in a US 50 guild sure, would I be good in a world top 3? I don't know, don't really care to find out either. I do know people in most top US guilds that I have been consistently better than, which is sad.
What's hypocritical about it?
From all of those, I'd agree I only really like vodka.
Congrats on 10/11 bro.
Between this nonsense rationalization and the drivel that was vomited out by the guy that apparently wanted to kick someone's ass over a video game lecturing about the "state of the NA raiding scene", I'm really glad this otherwise boring progression tier thread took a turn like this.
Glad argus is lasting this long. Hopefully past reset, would be cool.
My guess is that there is 2, or possibly even 3, secret phases. As you can see when they hit 40% and the new stuff starts, the bosses HP goes back up to 66% hp, which wouldn't make much sense if it is only 1 phase. I think most likely at 33% or something he starts his real final phase.