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  1. #81
    I personally would love this as it would create a mirror to main as a BE pally. Though, I can't help but think it'd be a bit strange when a Void Elf Pally hits lvl 100 and gets handed the HOLY Ashbringer.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Heart of Thorns View Post
    It is void, the Void is a plane of existence and so is the Light. Both manifest as void and light in physical universe. Pure Light, whatever it is, is like Void Lords who also can't manifest in the mundane. But yes, void is shadow magic and it comes in different degrees of saturation. It is the best shown on Shadow Priests when shadow form deepens and twists into void form.
    they CAN'T manifest themself on physical universe. they already part of it. If void manifest itself purly it will devour everything, same with the light wich will turn everything in crystall. It's not the plane only. it's fundamental power of universe. Power wich require price. Often this price is hight.

  3. #83
    Void and Light are just forms of power in the blizzardverse. Strong manifestations of light/order are the pantheon of Titans. Void/chaos leads to the manifestations like the old gods. They are at ends with one another. And fel is what happens when the Shadow/void corrupts something created from neutral/light.

    At the level of existence we play in the game as it's just a form of fuel for our abilities.

    So, technically mages and shamans in the blizzardverse use void power as they use power given from the elemebtals which are creations of the old gods.
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  4. #84
    Lol k.

    Makes about as much sense as Lighforged Draenei Shadow Priests.
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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Void and Light are just forms of power in the blizzardverse. Strong manifestations of light/order are the pantheon of Titans. Void/chaos leads to the manifestations like the old God's. They are at ends with one another. And fel is what happens when the Shadow/void corrupts something created from neutral/light.

    At the level of existence we play in the game as it's just a form of fuel for our abilities.
    a little wrong (https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.ne...icle_Magic.jpg) page from chronicles. Titans use light mostly as a tool. They not represent it's power.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    well...

    they are bloodtotem though, not exactly highmountain or thunderbluff tauren are they?
    notice how these guys get super fucked up becoming warlocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danuru View Post
    Er.... You're wrong. Here's a link of someone breaking it down a bit: https://gaming.stackexchange.com/que...cross-factions

    So it might not be exact but the differences are not really that great. For most of the cases where there is a difference, it's mainly due to animation speed and when exactly the damage is applied. For only a single ability (at the time of this person's post) was there a significant difference from it's counterpart.
    thats 6 years ago, they have changed the classes since then to be differant from what i have seen.

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    That would actually be pretty cool. Even if just a cosmetic change.

    If naaru can go void, so can paladins.

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    Yes, considering the way Blizzard is pushing the duality of the Light and the Void, there's no reason why a paladin couldn't learn to draw their power from the void instead of the light.

    It's not as if dark paladins are unheard of, DnD, the mother of all modern fantasy, has had them for years.

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  9. #89
    I agree in the concept, but the OP didn’t do themselves any favors in thread name, and shit the lore to justify the concept.

    Mirror the Paladin, just rename the class, specs, abilities and change the spell effects.... suddenly an Order of Shadow Knights pop up in Void Elf.... walks, they don’t have a home. Cuz they a Bullshit race, hahaha suckas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    well, technically a paladin is a mobile artillery piece too. We need a class that uses ridiculously large guns and explosions that would register on the bay-scale.(The scale of course measuring just how erect michael bay gets when he sees said explosion.)
    Brother, maybe we should not go that far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorish View Post
    they CAN'T manifest themself on physical universe. they already part of it. If void manifest itself purly it will devour everything, same with the light wich will turn everything in crystall. It's not the plane only. it's fundamental power of universe. Power wich require price. Often this price is hight.
    They can, as you have said it in your second sentence, brother. All kind of power requires price.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Void Elves would make fine Paladins.
    The Forsaken are a good candidate to be Lightforged.
    The piss-stained wind chime tried to lightforge the demoniest of demon hunters and was about to succeed. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the light can corrupt anything :P.

    Paladins though .. meh that is a bit weird. According to their new syste, light is the opposite of void/shadow. That makes it rather unlikely, even though Death Knights used to be the anti-thesis of Paladins, but they got shifted to death and are now the opposite of nature/life and therfore druidsm..

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    Void Elf paladin make as little sense as Forsaken paladins would.

    If shadow Priest was a Seperate class, Nightborne/Forsaken/Void elfhealing priest probably wouldn't be playable.

    Edit: Or no shadow Lightforged.
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  13. #93
    Haha, another thread where OP brings up an idea and a bunch of nerds shut him down claiming "it wouldn't make sense".

    All it needs it to have Blizz add in the game, make up some story, retcon some slight details that have been long set in the lore and voilá, it now makes sense and it's perfectly fine.

    It's fun to watch people get worked up so much, list all sorts of reasons why something can't be like when you ask your math teacher on elementary school why you can't divide by zero. Holy shit lol.

    Sometimes all it needs is a silly shit in form of a garrison meme follower. Remember that one panda DK? It was enough for people to start rationalizing panda DKs and why they should (or in fact WILL) be added.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Frumpy Frumpy Frak View Post
    Yes, considering the way Blizzard is pushing the duality of the Light and the Void, there's no reason why a paladin couldn't learn to draw their power from the void instead of the light.
    It's a problem less related to their power source, and more to their fundamental philosophy. A Void "Paladin" would not simply be a Paladin with all spells shifted to the Shadow school, but their entire way of life would be turned upside down. And we already have a class like that, so they'd just be redundant with Death Knights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teri View Post
    Void Elf paladin make as little sense as Forsaken paladins would.

    If shadow Priest was a Seperate class, Nightborne/Forsaken/Void elf/Lightforged healing priest probably wouldn't be playable.
    Don't you mean the other way around for Lightforged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louz View Post
    It's fun to watch people get worked up so much, list all sorts of reasons why something can't be like when you ask your math teacher on elementary school why you can't divide by zero. Holy shit lol.
    You mean when you get a kid insisting that there must be some grand reason when in reality it's just that nobody defined what happens if you try, so you keep making up new stuff hoping it finally shuts up?

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    Yeah! They can form their own dark paladin order named Knights of Ren!

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    Yeah! They can form their own dark paladin order named Knights of Ren!
    Brother, actually it is not a bad idea considering the whole 'ren'dorei'. Maybe knights would be too much because of copyrights and direct association, but any other word can work. Bless you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Don't you mean the other way around for Lightforged?
    Oops, yes, I did. No Shadow Lightforged if it was a seperate class.

    Now I know lore changed over time, and we do see more forsaken using holy magic (Alonsus Faol).

    I know priests won't change, shadow spec wouldn't make sense on it's own anyway, just gotta imagine they gotta retain a lot of "discipline" to balance their affinity with the light and void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcin14 View Post
    I personally would love this as it would create a mirror to main as a BE pally. Though, I can't help but think it'd be a bit strange when a Void Elf Pally hits lvl 100 and gets handed the HOLY Ashbringer.
    Well, they’ll be handed the holy Naaru on a stick as priests so...

    At least the Ashbringer has not just one but two unholy/dark versions.

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    Well, technically we already have Death Knights who fill the niche of the Antipaladin (which can be found in D&D, but also as the polar opposite of the Paladin hero in WarCraft III).

    A Void Paladin could possibly be created, but is not that interesting compared to a DK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    It's a problem less related to their power source, and more to their fundamental philosophy. A Void "Paladin" would not simply be a Paladin with all spells shifted to the Shadow school, but their entire way of life would be turned upside down. And we already have a class like that, so they'd just be redundant with Death Knights.
    If Tauren paladins can exist, I'm sure Blizzard can explain Void paladins.

    Also, Death Knights use Death magic, not Void magic. Aesthetically speaking, their spells look nothing like the blue/purple of void magic. There's plenty of room for shadow paladins.
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