Islamic State fighter tells ITV News militants are heading to Europe

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http://www.itv.com/news/2017-12-12/c...error-attacks/

A former Islamic State militant captured after the fall of Raqqa says that jihadist fighters have left Syria intending to travel to Europe to launch attacks.

Saddam al-Hamadi, 26, was arrested by Turkish security forces last month after exploiting an evacuation deal designed to free civilians. He was detained as he reached the Turkey-Syria border.

But the former IS follower warned that extremists planned to use the chaos of the fall of Raqqa to travel to Europe.

"They will go overseas to launch terrorist attacks in some areas in Europe" he told ITV News in an exclusive interview granted from Turkish custody.

"They went to Europe after the withdrawal. Before that they thought the Europeans were infidels, non-believers. They will get out, across Turkey and into Europe where they will launch terrorist attacks and other things."

More details in link

[Fonduset]

No one should be surprised. They have been coming over disguised as refugees for years.

[ParanoiD84]

They are getting murdered left and right all over the place so of course they wanna come here, no surprise there. Come here we also give you jobs and housing or well we did dont think that was very popular with the people, rather have them shot and killed if they even try to enter, citizenship burned and all that good stuff.

[Cerilis]

Looks like they are recruiting.

[Kalis]

ISIS have been saying this for years, our security services have been saying this, the jihadis have been carrying out attacks already.

[Saucexorzski]

Small change, Nazis and other alt-right groups are the real threat.

[lonely zergling]

In other words: water is wet. We all know that radical islamist terrorists infiltrated our countries when the refugee crisis took place years ago... why would they suddently stop?

[Jaransan]

They are getting murdered left and right all over the place so of course they wanna come here, no surprise there. Come here we also give you jobs and housing or well we did dont think that was very popular with the people, rather have them shot and killed if they even try to enter, citizenship burned and all that good stuff.

Its aggravating to reward assholes with jobs, but realistically, convincing them that 'this is ok' and to just be complacent is vastly better than the continued struggle of trying to slaughter them out of existence. They're fanatics, so killing them all tends to just make them feel justified.

[Kalis]

Its aggravating to reward assholes with jobs, but realistically, convincing them that 'this is ok' and to just be complacent is vastly better than the continued struggle of trying to slaughter them out of existence. They're fanatics, so killing them all tends to just make them feel justified.

If they’re dead then I’m not sure how them feeling justified is a problem.

[Jaransan]

If they’re dead then I’m not sure how them feeling justified is a problem.

Because theres no 'kill them all with no losses' button. They aren't a standing army. Theyre geurillas in many cases. cells. small groups. It takes drastically more resources, manpower, and effort for a developed nation to create an operation that allows their soldiers to kill a single cell of of terrorist with minimal risk for their OWN peoples safety, than it does for other insurgents to look at the people who have not yet been turned to their side and say

"Look! You see! They fear our ideas and beliefs because we are right! Join us or you will be next!"

It's not a new tactic. Fearmonger types in the states who get harpooned for being nonsensical assholes immediately turn around and say 'you see? my freedom of speech is being attacked!" (Something impossible unless your specifically being shutdown by the government)

In this way, people who might not AGREE with infowars types, or Milo, or anyone else, will still stand with them.

The people living in constant fear of military strikes or missiles, or drones or whatever, have been given every reason to believe that the west is going to come, kill a bunch of people, and then leave them to stew in their own shit. Because its happened before and will happen again.

I'm not saying we have a better OPTION than killing them - it'd be patently stupid to tell a bunch of terrorists 'hey alls forgiven, heres a job' But you have to at least admit the contagious nature of the problem.

[Kalis]

Because theres no 'kill them all with no losses' button. They aren't a standing army. Theyre geurillas in many cases. cells. small groups. It takes drastically more resources, manpower, and effort for a developed nation to create an operation that allows their soldiers to kill a single cell of of terrorist with minimal risk for their OWN peoples safety, than it does for other insurgents to look at the people who have not yet been turned to their side and say

"Look! You see! They fear our ideas and beliefs because we are right! Join us or you will be next!"

It's not a new tactic. Fearmonger types in the states who get harpooned for being nonsensical assholes immediately turn around and say 'you see? my freedom of speech is being attacked!" (Something impossible unless your specifically being shutdown by the government)

In this way, people who might not AGREE with infowars types, or Milo, or anyone else, will still stand with them.

The people living in constant fear of military strikes or missiles, or drones or whatever, have been given every reason to believe that the west is going to come, kill a bunch of people, and then leave them to stew in their own shit. Because its happened before and will happen again.

I'm not saying we have a better OPTION than killing them - it'd be patently stupid to tell a bunch of terrorists 'hey alls forgiven, heres a job' But you have to at least admit the contagious nature of the problem.

We have the problem of them returning and radicalising the youth as it is, so we can’t let them go free in the country. We put them in prison and they radicalise other inmates. At least if they die in a combat zone we don’t have to worry about them.

[Independent voter]

Guess which country has the most returning ISIS members?


Russia, Cechnya etc

[Sunseeker]

News at 11: Radicals say scary things to make people afraid!

What, did anyone think they were going to say: "Naw man, sending fighters into Europe is too much trouble, we ain't gonna bother."??

[Amerrol]

Small change, Nazis and other alt-right groups are the real threat.

I seriously can't tell if you are joking, and that scares me. RIP Europe, you had a good run.

[Rotted]

No one should be surprised. They have been coming over disguised as refugees for years.

First reply, didn't take long

[Khaza-R]

Guess which country has the most returning ISIS members?


Russia, Cechnya etc

True, but they aren’t alone either

[Deleted]

Guess which country has the most returning ISIS members?


Russia, Cechnya etc

actually it will be Tunisia most likely.


The recent attacks show that the recruiting pool has dried up, the recruits are getting worse (unspectacular attacks to match thier unspectacular lives) and the 'four lions effect' is in full swing. They are generally incompetent, luckily for us.

[Kalis]

True, but they aren’t alone either

What’s going on with Belgium?

[Darkeon]

ISIS have been saying this for years, our security services have been saying this, the jihadis have been carrying out attacks already.

But do we really know the motives and who the perpetrators really are, though?

[Deleted]

What’s going on with Belgium?

boring nothing place vs adventure and meaning