What a f**cking day, at the NHS.

[Slant]

How is it free when they take my tax money for this shit. I rather take that tax percentage and use it on a private healthcare of my choice. Men I never felt so crap as today.

Hmm, try what you did today with a heart attack. See if the response time is different. Oh, and when you're rolled in to the ER room and watch that dude holding his shoulder, give him a wink and a thumbs up!

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Hmm, try what you did today with a heart attack. See if the response time is different. Oh, and when you're rolled in to the ER room and watch that dude holding his shoulder, give him a wink and a thumbs up!

Ambulance is even taking the time with serious calls
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/he...-a7690476.html

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Ambulance is even taking the time with serious calls
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/he...-a7690476.html

Maybe it is because people are spamming them with shit like a hurting shoulder or other non life threatening things.

[Serpha]

Because you get taxed the same amount as everyone else in any other non-shit country th e tax is just distriibuted to public services differently. Also it's 'free' because if you need £300,000 of health care you get it, if you're sick and need a GP visit? You can get an appointment - for free. X-ray? Free. Consultant? Free. NHS level dentistry? Free. Need health care while abroad? Green card = free medical care.

Your arm was dislocated, not hanging off.

Dentists are not free...apointment with GP? good luck, more like grilled by receptionist and if you are lucky you can see nurse...consultant? sure next year...and nothing is free, we pay for it.

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Maybe it is because people are spamming them with shit like a hurting shoulder or other non life threatening things.

I think you hate me somehow ;p

[sarahtasher]

It's cute that everyone imagine themselves-while posting on a MMO forum that THEY would be in the category of people that could afford good healthcare and leave everyone else in the gutter to die.

Guess what folks ? Thanks to your wonderful system, a triple bypass cost around 30 000 in the USA. What percentage of the population could afford this ?

[Slant]

Ambulance is even taking the time with serious calls
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/he...-a7690476.html

Hmm. Well, hang in there. It'll get better once you're out of the EU. Lots of money pouring in, means lots of new ambulances. In the meantime, try not to dislocate your shoulder. I've yet to do that, but the one time I sprained it, it hurt pretty well.

[Captain N]

Maybe it is because people are spamming them with shit like a hurting shoulder or other non life threatening things.

Building on this even the article states that it's Non-Threatening "Red-2" calls that are around a 19 minute wait time.

It does not say exactly what the wait time is on the "Red-1" life threatening issues in the article only that it isn't meeting its 8 minute target window. Which means anything that's beyond 8 minutes and 0 seconds is considered a fail by the system that's in place.

[Azadina]

That what it would cost if you compare it to the US system, there are no private British emergency hospitals so I used the best example. Actually £2k is pretty generous and assumes they will not charge you for things such as slings and wheelchair hire.

Don't forget he wanted an ambulance ride at first. The 2k might go to just that, if comparing to US system, not even including any treatments yet.

I know he says he didn't get the ride, but comparing to for profit system, such hospital might happily provide the ride for additional charges.

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Don't forget he wanted an ambulance ride at first. The 2k might go to just that, if comparing to US system, not even including any treatments yet.

Currently, ambulance transport costs $415, plus $7.50 per mile, with an average distance traveled of about 5 miles for a total of $452.50. Under the proposal, that would go up to $800 and $16 a mile, or $880, which city officials said was more in line with other major cities, including Dallas and New York.8 Feb 2010

Fuck, is this correct?

[Azadina]

Currently, ambulance transport costs $415, plus $7.50 per mile, with an average distance traveled of about 5 miles for a total of $452.50. Under the proposal, that would go up to $800 and $16 a mile, or $880, which city officials said was more in line with other major cities, including Dallas and New York.8 Feb 2010

Fuck, is this correct?

Ah, not 2k, so for the proposed 2k cost, he'd still have money left for 2 packs of 500 dollar painkillers! .....but not the treatment.

[I Push Buttons]

Apparently you have never been to a US emergency room before??


the last 3 times i have been there for at least 3 hours before i had even been seen. took my father there and he got in right away but then it took 8 hours to get an xray done before he could leave.

The last time I went to an ER, I showed up, gave the front desk my ID/insurance, and literally instantly I was in a private room talking to a doctor... Within a few minutes they had an IV in me and sedated me with some painkillers, I was just laying in there with the lights off taking a nap since the painkillers hit me hard (waiting for an ambulance to be available to take me to a specialist for my problem at another nearby hospital).

And I don't live in the middle of nowhere... I live in the city.

Perhaps you shouldn't generalize your experience as the experience for the entire US.

[sarahtasher]

The wonders of socialized medicine, eh?

The wonder of any medicine except the US one, you mean ? The medicine put foward by dangerous pinkos like Otto von Bismarck ?

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The last time I went to an ER, I showed up, gave the front desk my ID/insurance, and literally instantly I was in a private room talking to a doctor... Within a few minutes they had an IV in me and sedated me with some painkillers, I was just laying in there with the lights off taking a nap since the painkillers hit me hard (waiting for an ambulance to be available to take me to a specialist for my problem at another nearby hospital).

And I don't live in the middle of nowhere... I live in the city.

Perhaps you shouldn't generalize your experience as the experience for the entire US.

And what was wrong with you? A sore shoulder?

[I Push Buttons]

And what was wrong with you? A sore shoulder?

A small itchy bump on my right foot (which I assume was a bug bite) quickly turned into an autoimmune nightmare with both of my feet turning bright red, feeling like they were on fire, swelling up to be almost twice as big as normal, and covered in blisters.

[Independent voter]

My insurance is pretty good, most things are a $10 deductible. Keep in mind my employer pays for the insurance.

But not everyone in the US has my insurance.

[RicardoZ]

Apparently you have never been to a US emergency room before??


the last 3 times i have been there for at least 3 hours before i had even been seen. took my father there and he got in right away but then it took 8 hours to get an xray done before he could leave.

I've not ever had that experience at an emergency room in America.

[bladeXcrasher]

They don't have urgent care center's in the UK?

[Blamblam41]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

That 911 operator lied to you, dislocation is a serious emergency.

That's also what happens when hospitals as a business need to outsource their X-ray and other medical services in order to meet demand. Perhaps if the privatized industry didn't exist, you'd actually get treatment.

[JohnBrown1917]

Reason why I waited 7 hours was because there were actually 2 doctors present at that time. I kid you not. Its was wait 3 hours, go x ray, 1 hour then come back and wait in the 3 hour que again, with savage pain

So you want more funds to the NHS?