View Poll Results: Do you see Blizzard implementing the WoW Token into Classic?

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  • No, then it wouldn't be Vanilla.

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  1. #141
    If they did implement it, why do people think it would cost so much? Proportionally, it would probably be somewhere around 50s-4g depending on economy. Blizz gets their money from selling the tokens, I doubt they care how much they are going for in game.

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    I'd like tokens. I'm not a huge fan of gold farming so I'd buy gold one way or another, but I would certainly prefer doing it legal way.

    Of course price should be different from retail, I think it's obvious. Demand-supply should balance price to fair point.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgon View Post
    I don't see how it's obvious Classic would have "access to tokens" when the games will be completely separate besides both being in the Battle.net app. They would be completely different games (Like Starcraft and Starcraft II), they would have to literally write the code for tokens into WoW Classic. It's completely separate these games.
    they have to rewrite classic code anyway to connect to the bnet so yes, tokens will be included in that no matter how much you wanna talk around it.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Fummockelchen View Post
    they have to rewrite classic code anyway to connect to the Bnet so yes, tokens will be included in that no matter how much you wanna talk around it.
    Again, how is this obvious? The Bnet integration =/= token. I mean we had bent for years before the token was introduced, they are still completely separate. I don't see how just because we will likely have Bnet means we will have the token..

  5. #145
    If you read the rest of my post you'd see I addressed that very suggestion and what it would most likely do to a token market on both live servers and Vanilla servers.

    Besides that, gold was an extremely rare and hard to grind commodity in Vanilla. Even if a token was sold for 200 gold on a Vanilla server, few if any would sell since even that amount would take months and months for someone to acquire. Gathering enough gold for an epic mount was a feat of strength in itself. The work it takes to acquire gold in Vanilla is much too hard for a mere months worth of game time. The trade off just would not make a token market on a Vanilla server remotely worth while to the buyer or seller.

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    Imagine it was? It took weeks to get like 10 gold back in vanilla. Imagine being able to buy like 180k for 20 bucks. Jesus Christ you'd have your epic mount the minute you hit 40

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaHomieG View Post
    Imagine it was? It took weeks to get like 10 gold back in vanilla. Imagine being able to buy like 180k for 20 bucks. Jesus Christ you'd have your epic mount the minute you hit 40
    It's so strange people think it would be the same price on both retail and Vanilla. It wouldn't of course.

    Also epic mounts could only be bought at 60 I believe.
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  8. #148
    Yes but won't provide the same amount Legion/BFA does.

    Look at Old School Runescape Bonds vs Runescape 3 bonds as a example.

    On OSRS its around 3.2mil gold and on RS3 its around 14mil. Classic servers price will be different then Current servers. Blizzard will do it just to cut down on gold farmers.
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    Leave the token on Retail. It serves as an incentive to play Retail, and they avoid disproportionate scaling between Retail and Classic.

    As for gold farmers? We have authenticators now, so stealing an account won't be as easy as it used to be. I'd keep the Trade Chat restrictions we have now, and remove the "Free Trial" period Classic used to have. Allow the chat UI to display a Blizzard icon next to GM names. Have corpses despawn so they don't leave behind messages.

  10. #150
    I mean, depending on the version of Vanilla they go with, you won't even have connected Auction Houses, much less one in every major city. I think it's also going to depend if they include access to Vanilla with your basic $15/mo subscription, or if they set up a separate subscription specifically for it. Even as someone who didn't come into the game until near the end of the glory days (late wrath baby), I know that one of the things people remember most is that actually having gold meant something back in Vanilla. I'd still say they shouldn't.

  11. #151
    I would want them, but not really. It's just annoying and has nothing to do with "Vanilla feeling" if your main rogue never get Bloodfang shoulder or head because Paladins drop 5 weeks in a row... Oh yeah, you're horde btw Disenchant!

    But it would also make the gear progression too fast.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by TordFish View Post
    I would want them, but not really. It's just annoying and has nothing to do with "Vanilla feeling" if your main rogue never get Bloodfang shoulder or head because Paladins drop 5 weeks in a row... Oh yeah, you're horde btw Disenchant!

    But it would also make the gear progression too fast.
    What? How would gear progression result from the WoW token?

  13. #153
    I can only see issues in acually implementing the WoW Token to Classic while not being an alternative token(as in there being a WoW Token(BoA) and a WoW Token(Classic)).

    Let's first say you whould just implement the WoW Token as is to Classic. The first few questions whould be along the lines of
    -What whould the price be on Classic? Hundreds of thousands of gold(like Live) or 50-200 gold (to be more like the value of Classic)
    -Whould there be two diffrent prices for the same token, depending on where you bought it? Live or Classic, Horde or Alliance.

    The only way i can see this working out and to skip the whole hassle of trying to implement the WoW Token, whould just be to include Classic is included in the standard subcription.

  14. #154
    After playing on private just to remind me the feels, I say fuck yes for token, there's no chance I'm starting back from scratch when I worked my ass off farming all my main profession and secondary profession 12 years ago, just to start from scratch once again.

  15. #155
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    Again, how is this obvious? The Bnet integration =/= token. I mean we had bent for years before the token was introduced, they are still completely separate. I don't see how just because we will likely have Bnet means we will have the token..
    you are really VERY ignorant are you? ignoring that the bnet evolved over the years and that ofc classic will get the bnet from today and not the one from 2004 and thus include shop, tokens, launcher, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaHomieG View Post
    Imagine being able to buy like 180k for 20 bucks. Jesus Christ you'd have your epic mount the minute you hit 60
    So? a mount someone else has ruins your gameplay?

  16. #156
    BfA and Classic will share the same subscription, so yes, there will be Token access, but I doubt that the Token will be available for purchase with Classic gold. To begin with, if the economy stays the same, outside of scaling the in-game token, there's no way that you could pay for the current price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummockelchen View Post
    you are really VERY ignorant are you? ignoring that the bnet evolved over the years and that ofc classic will get the bnet from today and not the one from 2004 and thus include shop, tokens, launcher, etc.

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    So? a mount someone else has ruins your gameplay?
    Oh no not me. I could give less fucks then a pornstar. I'd be the one buying the tokens and copping out on all the expensive end game shit lmaooo. I just know for a fact there would be thousands of little faggots crying about not wanting to spend money for gold

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Fummockelchen View Post
    you are really VERY ignorant are you? ignoring that the bnet evolved over the years and that ofc classic will get the bnet from today and not the one from 2004 and thus include shop, tokens, launcher, etc.
    Not ignorant, I know everything you are saying, and I'm still surprised you are ignoring what I'm saying. Bnet is an app, isn't not a part of WoW. You may be able to buy a token in the launcher with Classic, but being able to sell it on WoW Classic is something completely different. Since, as you say, it's not 2004 and retail WoW has progressed to be able to sell the tokens and tokens exists etc, etc - you will always be able to buy and sell WoW tokens because they already exists... But selling them in Classic is not something that just "happens" because you can launch WoW Classic on Bnet. That's not 100% obvious just because through the launcher even after Classic's launch you will be able to buy a token would mean you could sell it on Classic WoW, the only 100% is that the token you would buy after Classic's launch would be sellable on Retail, because that's already a thing. How do you not get that? And it's not "simple" to just add the WoW token into WoW Classic as something to be bought, they would have to write that code separately and that would take time. I'm not saying it wouldn't be something they wouldn't do because I think they will do it because it will make them a lot of money, but that's now what I'm arguing. I'm saying you're wrong to think it's 100% obvious the WoW token would be sold in Classic just because it's most likely Classic will be inside the Bnet launcher.

    Sorry you can't seem to wrap your mind around that, but I tried my best to explain.

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    This is allllll assuming that "Classic" is going to be something entirely separate from "Retail", as opposed to either just a server, or a setting.

    I'm almost entirely certain that it isn't something separate, as the 'Retail' game and its main market is the driving force behind tokens, not Vanilla. They want people playing Retail, if they can help it.
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  20. #160
    even if it was implemented, what harm would it do??

    if they don't implement it, the chinese gold farmers will swarm back in and people will still buy gold.

    if they do implement it, the chinese gold farmers will go away or be drastically reduced and people will still buy gold (this time from the token) either way I don't see the token changing ANY aspects of the gameplay, if anything it would actually take materials out of the AH because the chinese would have less motivation to farm things to sell.

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