What a f**cking day, at the NHS.

[Elegiac]

You must be on the ACA or something. I don't have anything close to a deductible at all, and I only pay 220 a check for the wife and myself. The longest wait time I have at the hospital or doctors office, is the time it takes me to fill out a form. About a year ago I had an impacted tooth, I went to the dentist, I handed them an insurance card, I filled out a form and was sitting in a chair getting the best high from that NO2 tank. Next thing I know, I'm waking up and my mouth is numb. Entire process, from door to door, 2.5 hours.

Gee, it's almost as if not everyone has a cadillac plan from their employer or can rely on the US' pay-to-live healthcare system to reduce waiting times by allowing people with deferrable conditions to jump the queue.

[schwarzkopf]

hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

I think you misunderstand what the idea of free health care is.
It is a substitute for DYING, not for getting better health care if you can afford it.

[Deleted]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

They're right; you don;t need an ambulance for a dislocated shoulder, for one thing, you're mobile. And once at the hospital, they correctly treated you as a non-urgent case that had to wait behind people who were having heart-attacks or had critical injuries.

Yes, your shoulder was painful, but that's about it. At no point was your life in danger, nor indeed were you at any risk of permament injury or disability.

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hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

hope you are ok bro!

So what would you do if you couldn;t pay? Oh yeah, say thank god for free healthcare.

[Triggered Fridgekin]

People getting mad at triage for $500.

[Spiffums]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

The key is to claim chest pains......then once you're back there burp real big and say wow must have been gas, now about my shoulder.

Call a taxi......remember that when they are calling around wanting funding.

[Deleted]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

It's free, stop complaining. Do you know how much physio is private? 110 per hour. Be thankful for the NHS and yes dislocated shoulder doesn't require an ambulance.

[Deleted]

broke my thumb 2 years ago. was in & out of casualty in about 2 hours. that included x-ray & a cast put on my hand & half way up my arm & no, an ambulance wasnt called as it was hardly an emergency.
an ambulance for a dislocated shoulder...ffs!!

[Katchii]

The wonders of socialized medicine, eh?

Typical wait times in private healthcare for non-emergency...meaning not life threatening...injuries are not much different depending on where you live and the size of the staff at the hospital/ emergency room you're going to.

Has nothing to do with socialized vs private healthcare, it's basic triage.

[oplawlz]

And once at the hospital, they correctly treated you as a non-urgent case that had to wait behind people who were having heart-attacks or had critical injuries.
Yes, your shoulder was painful, but that's about it. At no point was your life in danger, nor indeed were you at any risk of permament injury or disability.

That's called an understaffed hospital. If there are so many critical injuries coming in that someone with a dislocated shoulder has to wait hours to be seen, they're obviously working way over capacity, which highlights a flaw with the system.

[Elegiac]

That's called an understaffed hospital. If there are so many critical injuries coming in that someone with a dislocated shoulder has to wait hours to be seen, they're obviously working way over capacity, which highlights a flaw with the system.

Or the fact that we have this thing called 'triage' because no hospital in the world has the resources to see every patient immediately, especially for something like a dislocated shoulder which is in no way life threatening or critical.

[Deleted]

The last time I went to an ER, I showed up, gave the front desk my ID/insurance, and literally instantly I was in a private room talking to a doctor... Within a few minutes they had an IV in me and sedated me with some painkillers, I was just laying in there with the lights off taking a nap since the painkillers hit me hard (waiting for an ambulance to be available to take me to a specialist for my problem at another nearby hospital).

And I don't live in the middle of nowhere... I live in the city.

Perhaps you shouldn't generalize your experience as the experience for the entire US.

Sure, in the US your place in the queue depends on how much money you have, not your condition. It must be so cool to flash a credit card and have your sprained ankle take priority over some poor guy who is having a heart-attack.

[oplawlz]

broke my thumb 2 years ago. was in & out of casualty in about 2 hours. that included x-ray & a cast put on my hand & half way up my arm & no, an ambulance wasnt called as it was hardly an emergency.
an ambulance for a dislocated shoulder...ffs!!

Ever tried driving a stick without your shifting hand?

[Beazy]

Gee, it's almost as if not everyone has a cadillac plan from their employer or can rely on the US' pay-to-live healthcare system to reduce waiting times by allowing people with deferrable conditions to jump the queue.

Most people have insurance in the US. Most people are not on the ACA. I think the ACA topped out at 14 million users. Give or take a few.

[oplawlz]

Or the fact that we have this thing called 'triage' because no hospital in the world has the resources to see every patient immediately, especially for something like a dislocated shoulder which is in no way life threatening or critical.

There's a big difference between immediately and 5 hours.

[Projectmars]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

It’s far better than anything the US has so I don’t see why you’re complaining.

[Deleted]

Ever tried driving a stick without your shifting hand?

im left handed & broke my left thumb, gearstick is on the left here in the uk. so yes.

[Shamu]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

i broke 2 ribs and cracked one a month ago, was in and out of hospital inside an hour with some pretty fucking strong painkillers that made me high lol


and this was in scotland (nhs hospital) just incase anyone wonders ll

[oplawlz]

im left handed & broke my left thumb, gearstick is on the left here in the uk. so yes.

You have 4 other fingers. I have a feeling you've never dislocated a shoulder before.

[Narwal]

Apparently you have never been to a US emergency room before??


the last 3 times i have been there for at least 3 hours before i had even been seen. took my father there and he got in right away but then it took 8 hours to get an xray done before he could leave.

The emergency room we go to has never had a wait. We go to the emergency room like 6 times a year so... This is in the US btw.

[Elegiac]

There's a big difference between immediately and 5 hours.

To which the answer becomes; tough shit.

You may be in pain, but there are other people with more critical conditions that need to be addressed first.

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The emergency room we go to has never had a wait. We go to the emergency room like 6 times a year so... This is in the US btw.

People that have to visit the ER six times a year are part of the problem, just fyi.

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Most people have insurance in the US. Most people are not on the ACA. I think the ACA topped out at 14 million users. Give or take a few.

And most people on insurance have enjoyed the benefits of the ACA with its elimination of junk plans and by helping to arrest the rate of premium increase.

But hey, at the end of the day it's still a private healthcare system which always sucks.