Net neutrality gone

[Elegiac]

From what I understand, net neutrality hasn't even been around for that long. It's been around since, like 2014-15 or something like that, and did anybody notice? No. Likewise, I doubt anyone will notice with it gone.

It was put into place precisely because around 2014-15, telecoms companies were rolling out throttling and other nonsense targeted at streaming services.

[Trassk]

I don’t think I do at all which is the issue.
I was asking because there seems like no upside at all, which makes me wonder how regulators validated this to anyone. It’s pretty clear they were bribed or made money from revoking the Obama era mandate.

pretty much. This is greed, the 1% who show they don't give a shit about the everyday person, since they have so much money they don't give a shit, they don't have to worry about paying for extra fees to use the internet, so might as well bleed the stone dry.

[Deleted]

Sounds like a USA problem.

How are my EU buddies doing today

[Swizzington]

To the people saying, "well removing net neutrality would be okay if there weren't monopolies"...wtf? No, it still wouldn't be okay. ISPs are not struggling for money, lol, and net neutrality is not hindering them. All it does is protect YOU from their most heinous of business practices. We should be destroying these monopolies AND keeping NN.

The extreme greed, and the people's willingness to sustain it, is so fucking sickening.

[breadisfunny]

pretty much. This is greed, the 1% who show they don't give a shit about the everyday person, since they have so much money they don't give a shit, they don't have to worry about paying for extra fees to use the internet, so might as well bleed the stone dry.

except history shows what happens time and again to those that engage in that practice.

[DSRilk]

The same is true with Comcast. Most people are happy (enough) with them. If people become unsatisfied, alternatives will come. Do you think Comcast will want to risk their customer satisfaction and current "monopoly" just to earn some quick cash? They are not stupid.

I'm sorry, but you are completely in the wrong here. First, people HATE Comcast. They TOP the "America's Most Hated Company" list. Second, there is no competition because of openly agreed upon collusion to split up the territory, and work with their "competition" to kill off actual competition as it attempts to arise. It's not even hidden - they literally announced deals (reported by the WSJ) they've made to divide up territory and not merge without permission from what should be their competition. Third, they literally got caught throttling Netflix in 2014, resulting in a payout in order to lift it - literally no different than an illegal protection racket. It's why the government introduced NN in the first place.

A quick Google search on "cable company collusion" or "comcast throttling" will tell you all you need to know about how horrible they are as a company and how there is no risk for them in this, only profit. Of course you could also just go with the common sense argument of "If they weren't going to change anything, why spend millions lobbying against it?"

"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people." - Thomas Jefferson

[Beazy]

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[breadisfunny]

i don't see any porn sites on there. will those be outright blacklisted? also rhapsody and napster are the same entity last i checked.

[Mafic]

Comcast is the worst. They openly throttle connections or to certain websites well before the ruling.

Verizon and Time Warner tend to already offer tiered internet speeds.

What will be interesting to see is if Comcast can navigate their new fee structures when for example the NFL made a streaming deal with Yahoo recently (owned by Verizon).

Expect a lot of the big players to be fighting each other in court. Pai screwed up not only for consumers but the big players that have deals for streaming services like Verizon for example through the NFL.

[Cosmic Janitor]

A republican has already said to be in favour to keep net neutrality. With the other two dems it'll hopefully not pass.

When did the republican change sides?

[Everwake]

Who here did their part in fighting this thing? Who here is guilty of letting there nihilism ruin the internet

Your an hero and will never be forggottun.

[Flurryfang]

except history shows what happens time and again to those that engage in that practice.

History has also shown, that people time and time again bars themselfs against what happend in the past, so it does not happend to them. We live in a time, where the greedy have found a way to keep going without payback.

[Beazy]

i don't see any porn sites on there. will those be outright blacklisted?

I dont think they would want to advertise porn. These are just the most popular packages in Portugal for this carrier. I hope no one actually thinks this image is a fake "slippery slope" image. Its not, its reality.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...127-story.html

[breadisfunny]

History has also shown, that people time and time again bars themselfs against what happend in the past, so it does not happend to them. We live in a time, where the greedy have found a way to keep going without payback.

elaborate on that as i'm not sure exactly what your getting at. i mean the russian revolution and syrian civil war has shown for example that people in employ of the entity the people are revolting against are willing to join the opposition either out of the sheer amount of people revolting or because of an ideal. money does not buy enough people to stop a revolution if it comes down to it and a civil war in the u.s. could have dire consequences for the world if the any of the missle silos or an army base were to be captured. i shouldn't have to tell you what that would be. not that a civil war is imminent but the way things are going it might eventually come to that 40 or 50 years down the road if they keep oppressing the poor enough. it has happened dozens of times throughout history and even with technology no government is immune to it.

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I dont think they would want to advertise porn. These are just the most popular packages in Portugal for this carrier. I hope no one actually thinks this image is a fake "slippery slope" image. Its not, its reality.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...127-story.html

so then why is rhapsody listed alongside napster when they are the same entity unless i'm mistaken?

[Al Gorefiend]

You people are scared about net neutrality.

I'm not, because the Internet can and will fight back.

[Beazy]

elaborate on that as i'm not sure exactly what your getting at. i mean the russian revolution and syrian civil war has shown for example that people in employ of the entity the people are revolting against are willing to join the opposition either out of the sheer amount of people revolting or because of an ideal. money does not buy enough people to stop a revolution if it comes down to it and a civil war in the u.s. could have dire consequences for the world if the any of the missle silos or an army base were to be captured. i shouldn't have to tell you what that would be. not that a civil war is imminent but the way things are going it might eventually come to that 40 or 50 years down the road if they keep oppressing the poor enough. it has happened dozens of times throughout history and even with technology no government is immune to it.

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so then why is rhapsody listed alongside napster when they are the same entity unless i'm mistaken?

Who knows or cares? Why would ESPN be listed in the video package when they will be out of business within in a year or so? Why is Napster even listed in the first place with such a low user base compared to other streaming services?

I think there is a saying about nickels and dimes, I just cant remember it. /shrug

[Nurasu]

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so then why is rhapsody listed alongside napster when they are the same entity unless i'm mistaken?

Only as of June 2016. That image is probably older, since this debate has been going on for quite some time. The LA Times article does not have those listed separately.

[TStreets]

I case anyone wants to watch

https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

[FurryRedVixen]

Sounds like a USA problem.

How are my EU buddies doing today

You do understand, that if this passes, other isps globally will see how profitable this is and will start to make changes and force you to do the same things right?

[breadisfunny]

I case anyone wants to watch

https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

that's like asking if anyone wants to watch a live murder.