[Movie] Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi

[Emode]

It was ok. I wouldnt give it 5 stars like a lot of reviews have. I need to see it again. I liked the classic feel of the lightsaber battles, but most of the story felt filler for the Kylo/Ray interactions.

[Deletedaccount1]

How can people say Rogue One was better? Forgettable characters, pointless planet hopping, inappropriate and uncanny valley CGI of OT characters, telling a story that didn't need to be told, extreme fan service, completely predictable plot, etc. I liked the blind guy, the sarcastic robot and that's about it.

Episode 8 feels fresh at least which is something that I can't say about the previous two films at all.

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The problem though with this, the more you sit and think about certain aspects the worse it becomes. Bladerunner on the other hand makes you think and part of its brilliance is giving you time in the movie to critically think about what is happening. I think parts of this TLJ suffer because it spells out what exactly is happening. I think this movie could be far greater with a just a cut of what they made. If you cut the Finn/Rose story, the gags and Leia out the window, the pace and flow of the story would of improved.

Bladerunner 2049 is a better movie than the last 6 Star Wars movie combined and you are right that it bombed because movie going audiences today don't have the patience for it.

[Rafoel]

As I was watching it I was very interested in how the story was going... excited to see unpredictable plot twists and awaiting how it all unfolds. As the move was coming to an end though, it was replaced by different feelings. "Are they really doing it? They seriously leave this like that? What was the point of this? This is just stupid. No, seriously? Please." As the movie ended, I realized I disliked a lot of elements of it. 20 minutes passed, and I realized I hated the whole fundament on which the movie was built.

[Arrowstormen]

As I was watching it I was very interested in how the story was going... excited to see unpredictable plot twists and awaiting how it all unfolds. As the move was coming to an end though, it was replaced by different feelings. "Are they really doing it? They seriously leave this like that? What was the point of this? This is just stupid. No, seriously? Please." As the movie ended, I realized I disliked a lot of elements of it. 20 minutes passed, and I realized I hated the whole fundament on which the movie was built.

And which fundament would that be?

[Berndorf]

I suspect you know most critics so far have been positive.

I've seen a lot of non critics saying very bad things about it. On one site I visit regularly people are tearing it to pieces. I felt the same way about how critics rated TFA also. It was waaaaaay overrated by them imo.

[Arrowstormen]

I've seen a lot of non critics saying very bad things about it. On one site I visit regularly people are tearing it to pieces. I felt the same way about how critics rated TFA also. It was waaaaaay overrated by them imo.

The vast majority of people quite like The Force Awakens. Whether you don't agree with them is another matter, but by all metrics it is considered a succesful movie. Even with some vocal fans having said they don't like to so far, I would be surprised if the general audience reaction was not positive to The Last Jedi.

People that I've seen have been pretty vague about what they don't like about it, because spoilers and all that, but most of it seems to me to be people not liking it for the exact opposite reason most people said they did not like TFA.

[Berndorf]

The vast majority of people quite like The Force Awakens. Whether you don't agree with them is another matter, but by all metrics it is considered a succesful movie. Even with some vocal fans having said they don't like to so far, I would be surprised if the general audience reaction was not positive to The Last Jedi.

People that I've seen have been pretty vague about what they don't like about it, because spoilers and all that, but most of it seems to me to be people not liking it for the exact opposite reason most people said they did not like TFA.

Well of course TFA was a successful movie, it made $2b and was widely praised by critics. TLJ will be considered highly successful also most likely. With regards to the criticisms I've seen of TLJ both from critics and non critics, its not really the same as what I saw of TFA. There's a lot of criticism of much ado which leads nowhere and of Luke's characterization/role in the movie as well as other things which go beyond it just reusing ideas from the ot. Some of them are spoilerish so I won't go into details.

[Arrowstormen]

Well of course TFA was a successful movie, it made $2b and was widely praised by critics. TLJ will be considered highly successful also most likely. With regards to the criticisms I've seen of TLJ both from critics and non critics, its not really the same as what I saw of TFA. There's a lot of criticism of much ado which leads nowhere and of Luke's characterization/role in the movie as well as other things which go beyond it just reusing ideas from the ot. Some of them are spoilerish so I won't go into details.

I'm not an old fella from the 70's-80's, and my dad (currently) does not like what they did with Luke, but I loved it. the Casino Planet plot dragged, but that was the only thing I wasn't really keen on, after that part of the second act I enjoyed the movie immensely.

[Arlee]

Quick reminder if you must post spoilers put them in spoiler tags. Thanks

[derpkitteh]

What is even happening here? (Guy on the left is Rian Johnson, director of Episode 8).

looks like luke decided to pick up leia's coke habit for her in her absence.

all this new star wars stuff is shit though. if i were rich, i'd buy it from disney and make things right.

[Deleted]

Why are people saying the Republic are the Rebels? First Order are the Rebels in this time period.

[Arrowstormen]

Why are people saying the Republic are the Rebels? First Order are the Rebels in this time period.

Well, they did nuke the Republic.

[Leih]

Why are people saying the Republic are the Rebels? First Order are the Rebels in this time period.

The Republic was more or less wiped out in TFA and the time in between. The First Order are the only dominant military in the Star Wars galaxy at this point in time, and are currently in the process of seizing control. Leia's Resistance are not the Republic forces.

[Sakki]

What i absolutely hated about the movie is stupidity of First Order high command, their actions didnt make any sense and you would expect dominant military force in Galaxy to use some sort military tactics.

Why would you aim at their base, when you could destroy their fleet first and deal with those on surface (with no way to escape) later?
Dreadnought class ship has no shields while some transporter can withstand destroyers fire for hours?
Why would you pull out the TIE-fighters?
If you have several ships (I believe 3), use hyperdrive on one of them and jump infront of ship you chase to cut it off.

Bad guys are stupid and good guys are unstoppable...

[sarahtasher]

The Republic was more or less wiped out in TFA and the time in between. The First Order are the only dominant military in the Star Wars galaxy at this point in time, and are currently in the process of seizing control. Leia's Resistance are not the Republic forces.

The ''bulk'' (vague, of course) of the New Republic military was destroyed with the capital. (IE, the largest concentration of warships)

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What i absolutely hated about the movie is stupidity of First Order high command, their actions didnt make any sense and you would expect dominant military force in Galaxy to use some sort military tactics.

Why would you aim at their base, when you could destroy their fleet first and deal with those on surface (with no way to escape) later?
Dreadnought class ship has no shields while some transporter can withstand destroyers fire for hours?
Why would you pull out the TIE-fighters?
If you have several ships (I believe 3), use hyperdrive on one of them and jump infront of ship you chase to cut it off.

Bad guys are stupid and good guys are unstoppable...

We are talking of the Empire here, and the Empire purged of it's competent (IE, not fanatic) officers.

The Empire whose finest hour (and only on-screen victory) was storming with overwhelming force Echo Base and still manage to let most of the Rebels flee.

[Skyforge1]

Saw it last night, I am a huge star wars fan so i was going to like it regardless but that being said I didn't enjoy it as much as i wanted too

My opinions below, spoilers beware

Kylo is such an interesting character to watch, his scenes were the best of the film, seeing what really happened between Luke and Kylo at the Jedi temple made me sympathise for him

Kylo killing Snoke... EPIC! That whole scene in the Throne room, so good

The Kylo/Rey connection, the touching of hands and the baited romance, really pulled me in and I loved watching it

THAT Leia scene where she floats in space, What the Fuck!!!! BY FAR the worst scene in Star Wars history, I could not help but cringe watching, reminded me of Moaning Myrtle in Harry Potter

Finn is Fucking useless, fails every task he is given but is constantly saved by the bell every time he is about to die, throughout the movie his entire story was dumb

Captain Phasma, why was she even a character if they only ever planned on giving her 3 minutes screen time in each movie and a meaningless death?

I appreciate Lukes death being symbolic to how Kenobi went out, but I would of much preferred he travelled to Krait himself so we could of seen an actual Lightsaber duel between him and Kylo. It was epic but could of been more impactful

No big Stormtrooper fight? No epic lightsaber duel?

I am excited to see what happens next

[Fayolynn]

I for one am at least really happy about Rey's parents. i noticed in the first movie they tried to hint that she was a Skywalker when Luke's saber first called to Anakin, then Luke, and now her. It felt so cliché. So the reveal that she's actually a nobody, from nowhere... That just pleases me somehow. She doesn't have to be this super significant person with a super significant destiny from some particular blood line.

The issue is why even bother having her background be a mystery? That mystery is part of what people used to justify her being so amazing with the force in E7 and now that excuse gets thrown out the window. That reveal retroactively makes E7 a worse film than it already was.

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Why are people saying the Republic are the Rebels? First Order are the Rebels in this time period.

Because These two movies hit the reset button undoing everything accomplished in E4-6.

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Captain Phasma, why was she even a character if they only ever planned on giving her 3 minutes screen time in each movie and a meaningless death?

Because she only existed to sell toys.

[minteK917]

Because she only existed to sell toys.

Kinda like the bounty hunters in empire strikes back. They are cool toys in the movies, thats about it lol. I still have my boba fett, ig88 and bossk toys somewhere in a box. Wouldnt surprise me kids want that shiny trooper suit as a toy.

[Fayolynn]

Kinda like the bounty hunters in empire strikes back. They are cool toys in the movies, thats about it lol. I still have my boba fett, ig88 and bossk toys somewhere in a box. Wouldnt surprise me kids want that shiny trooper suit as a toy.

Exactly, though its kinda funny because they apologized for how they did nothing with her in E7 and promised to do better in E8...

[kamuimac]

The vast majority of people quite like The Force Awakens. Whether you don't agree with them is another matter, but by all metrics it is considered a succesful movie. Even with some vocal fans having said they don't like to so far, I would be surprised if the general audience reaction was not positive to The Last Jedi.

People that I've seen have been pretty vague about what they don't like about it, because spoilers and all that, but most of it seems to me to be people not liking it for the exact opposite reason most people said they did not like TFA.

i can tell you what i really felt out of place and disjointed - the final scene - as it made no sense when combined with earlie scene with yoda.

"ye Luke be this amazing teacher to Rey " - "sure master ill just quickly commit suicide without even trying to take kylo out for reals only gonna use telekinesis and die in proccesss .... oh fuck wasnt i supposed to teach Rey ... ye.... "
but my wild guess is that part 9 will be like 10-20 years after the events in part 8 - this may be the only sensible explanation why they decided to end it like this.

plus ... snoke ... such a f.... dissapointment - also such a cliche - you could have expected it to go this way but not to just end in instant. such a dissapoiting scene.