China Preparing for North Korea Crisis

[Beazy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-pre...145928996.html


Hmmm, anyone read this? Looks like China knows something we don't.

[Realitytrembles]

Interesting article.

IMO, this is the best case scenario:

1) China gets tired of Kim's brinksmanship maybe giving the US a reason to glass NK and reunify the peninsula by force, which would of course have US troops on the Yalu river

2) China invades NK while simultaneously Chinese agents slaughter the Kim family and their supporters

3) with the DPRK utterly dismantled, a 4-power conference on the future of the peninsula is convened: China, Russia, RoK, and the US

4) The final agreement: Korea is united under the Seoul government, the US agrees they will not move troops/airbases/etc north of the former DMZ, and the US/China/Russia agree to assist financially with the rebuilding and modernization of the former DPRK.

@Skroe : thoughts?

[Independent voter]

Kim Jung-un had his brother assassinated, the North Koreans got some floor girls to spray perfume on him as he walked through the department store only this perfume was laced with nerve agent that killed him.

They say he offed his brother so that China wouldn't kick Kim Jung-un out and replace him with his brother.

[zEmini]

The interesting part is that China is willing to accept refugees and is planning ahead in case that happens. This means that if in the coming decades, climate change forces mass refugee waves from Bangladesh, they might not turn them away (and have them slowly trickle into Europe instead) but might actually accept them.

NOt like china would have a choice in the matter. If we ignore the fact that they enabled NK to become what it is today; how would china stop a mass flood of people/refugees? They can't even if they wanted too.

[Realitytrembles]

NOt like china would have a choice in the matter. If we ignore the fact that they enabled NK to become what it is today; how would china stop a mass flood of people/refugees? They can't even if they wanted too.

Really? An authoritarian government with zero respect for humanity can't think of a way to stop a flood of people headed towards their borders?

If they wanted, the CCP would just put half the PLA (with warehouses full of ammo behind them) along the Yalu river with "Kill anything that comes your way" orders.

"Then there was slaughter, grim and appalling." ---- Robert E. Howard, The Jewels of Gwhalur

[zEmini]

They'd just kill them at the border. It's as simple as that. They are not planning on that. Which means that they are adapting their value system.

Really? An authoritarian government with zero respect for humanity can't think of a way to stop a flood of people headed towards their borders?

If they wanted, the CCP would just put half the PLA (with warehouses full of ammo behind them) along the Yalu river with "Kill anything that comes your way" orders.

"Then there was slaughter, grim and appalling." ---- Robert E. Howard, The Jewels of Gwhalur

Mass killing millions of people at a time is a lot harder than you think. Just ask the nazis.

So unless they decide to drop nukes on their own soil it isn't going to happen.

China might be a dictatorship that opresses it people, but it woudn't engage on that level of genocide. The entire world would turn on them. It would be the end of China.

[the game]

@Tennis how many will Canada take in?

[Skroe]

Interesting article.

IMO, this is the best case scenario:

1) China gets tired of Kim's brinksmanship maybe giving the US a reason to glass NK and reunify the peninsula by force, which would of course have US troops on the Yalu river

2) China invades NK while simultaneously Chinese agents slaughter the Kim family and their supporters

3) with the DPRK utterly dismantled, a 4-power conference on the future of the peninsula is convened: China, Russia, RoK, and the US

4) The final agreement: Korea is united under the Seoul government, the US agrees they will not move troops/airbases/etc north of the former DMZ, and the US/China/Russia agree to assist financially with the rebuilding and modernization of the former DPRK.

@Skroe : thoughts?

Never gonna happen.

(1) Rebuilding North Korea, basing it on an expanded version of East German Unification, will probably take 50 years and $5 trillion. Who is going to pay for that? Nobody.

(2) China will never trust the US to stay south of the old DMZ. The US and Russia had a similar agreement with respect to NATO enlargement, and due to Russian provcations, the US has decided to abandon that agreement. China knows that the US would do the same here, and have US troops on the Chinese border.

(3) A conflict with North Korea now will be nuclear. Most of the long range ones towards the US will hit open water or break up, but a conflict with North Korea will mean likely the destruction of Tokoyo, Seoul and probably Okinawa.

The best thing to consider with repsect to North Korea's nuclear weapons at this stage is like Saddam Hussein's use of Scuds in the GUlf War. Most will wildly miss their mark, but a few will hit exactly what they intend to.

[oplawlz]

Mass killing millions of people at a time is a lot harder than you think. Just ask the nazis.

So unless they decide to drop nukes on their own soil it isn't going to happen.

China might be a dictatorship that opresses it people, but it woudn't engage on that level of genocide. The entire world would turn on them. It would be the end of China.

You vastly overestimate the determination of people to run into gunfire. China would only have to actually kill a token number to deter an invasion of peasants.

[unbound]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-pre...145928996.html


Hmmm, anyone read this? Looks like China knows something we don't.

They don't know anything that we don't.

They know that a wanna-be dictator is constantly making threats to launch nukes while Kim Jong-un is doing everything he can to continue stirring the pot. Since neither leader is a grown-up, anyone with half a brain knows that it won't take much to set off that powder keg.

Pray for the best, but prepare for the worst.

[Deleted]

It's always good to be prepared.

Might not come to war, but the regime could still implode.

[Dextroden]

You vastly overestimate the determination of people to run into gunfire. China would only have to actually kill a token number to deter an invasion of peasants.

I'm not trying to be edgy. If the stories about kidnapping women to be wives are true, then only some are getting shot. The rest are getting captured.

[zEmini]

You vastly overestimate the determination of people to run into gunfire. China would only have to actually kill a token number to deter an invasion of peasants.

Maybe, but murdering people would put China further down the shit list.

[Rustedsaint]

Maybe, but murdering people would put China further down the shit list.

China murdered its own people with tanks before I don’t think it can go any further down the shit list

[zEmini]

China murdered its own people with tanks before I don’t think it can go any further down the shit list

That happened a while ago before the power of social media and trigger storms. But it will just prove that they are still a shit country and people outside of them should boycott or move manufacturing elsewhere. Taiwan sounds like a good alternative and middle finger for china.

[Hilhen7]

That happened a while ago before the power of social media and trigger storms. But it will just prove that they are still a shit country and people outside of them should boycott or move manufacturing elsewhere. Taiwan sounds like a good alternative and middle finger for china.

Rubber bullets and tear gas, problem solved.

Or be like trump and build a wall. LOL!

[Dextroden]

Rubber bullets and tear gas, problem solved.

Or be like trump and build a wall. LOL!

They already have a wall.

/jokes

[oplawlz]

That happened a while ago before the power of social media and trigger storms. But it will just prove that they are still a shit country and people outside of them should boycott or move manufacturing elsewhere. Taiwan sounds like a good alternative and middle finger for china.

We already know what a shit country it is and what horrible work conditions they have, but Apple is still one of the most successful companies in the world. No one is going to do anything about them turning away immigrants.

[shawnard]

A wall won't work out.