1. #1081
    Quote Originally Posted by Everwake View Post
    I know it's family fare as well as fan fare, but I wish they would take more chances with the story.

    For example, I want to see the story where Rey accepts Kylo's offer, believing that she has the power to change him. They kill Snoke together and vow to secretly destroy the New Order from within. Kylo asserts his authority as the new leader, while Domhall Gleason's character stews in the background, biding his time. Meanwhile, Kylo and Rey begin their journey together - no more masters, just two people learning from one another to balance the Force. She helps him to control his rage, he teaches her to channel hers. Do they succeed? Does one succumb to the other's will? Who knows, but it's a concept worth exploring.
    I did find it interesting how Snoke said he knew there would be an emergence in the light to counteract Kylo. I think this kinda hints the direction they are going with the whole "balance to the force", instead of balance being an inner balance of light and dark within the Jedi/Sith. Interesting that both luke/snoke are gone and there is still balance with rey/snoke.

  2. #1082
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan11d7 View Post
    I did find it interesting how Snoke said he knew there would be an emergence in the light to counteract Kylo. I think this kinda hints the direction they are going with the whole "balance to the force", instead of balance being an inner balance of light and dark within the Jedi/Sith. Interesting that both luke/snoke are gone and there is still balance with rey/snoke.
    We did see the boy using Force at the end, so I imagine more jedi (and sith?) will start to pop up to fill the vacuum left by Luke and Snoke.

  3. #1083
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    We did see the boy using Force at the end, so I imagine more jedi (and sith?) will start to pop up to fill the vacuum left by Luke and Snoke.
    That, along with Rey taking those jedi books makes me think we will see a resurgance of jedi / force users in the next film

  4. #1084
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    We did see the boy using Force at the end, so I imagine more jedi (and sith?) will start to pop up to fill the vacuum left by Luke and Snoke.
    I have a feeling we will see the "rule of 2" with the Jedi going forward. Not that it is going to be the new Jedi Rule, but I don't see a new generation of Jedi being trained, but rather an apprentice maybe.

  5. #1085
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan11d7 View Post
    I have a feeling we will see the "rule of 2" with the Jedi going forward. Not that it is going to be the new Jedi Rule, but I don't see a new generation of Jedi being trained, but rather an apprentice maybe.
    Either that or more of a grey jedi training. Balancing the force in the training instead of focussing solely on the light. The balance of the force was a big part of this film, so im sure that will play a role. And training a new generation of Jedi that are balanced with the force would fit into that.

  6. #1086
    I thought the movie is great, not sure what the fanboys are complaining about. There were only 2 things I disliked:

    1. Leia surviving being blown into space. That entire scene had to be one of the stupidest things to ever happen in a Star Wars film.

    2. They never explained Snoke. I liked Snoke I enjoyed how we was portrayed and liked that he ultimately lost due his own arrogance. But who the hell was he? I kept waiting for an explanation on where he came from but nothing. I'll admit that really bugs me.

  7. #1087
    Quote Originally Posted by baskev View Post
    ..............yeah they had those resources...And they could easily make more stuff and troopers in just a year...did you even read what i wrote?!?!

    It took decade's to build a fleet like that.....main reason why it took 29 years for the first order to take their move.....you know...time to build stuff like that... :S.....And if they sent it in like you suggest they will loose allot of stuff. And that is not going to be easy to replace.
    I did read what you wrote. Did you read what I wrote? The point is they are a large fleet chasing the entire remaining resistance. Loosing even a hundred fighters/bombers to take them out is worth it because even if it takes them another 29 years to rebuild they wouldn't have anybody actively fighting them. Given how many ships they end up losing during this movie one has to wonder if they are even still a threat if they are so scarred to lose a few pilots?

  8. #1088
    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    I kind of agree with the people saying it’s more of a marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.
    It's not even that. It's like the Fifth Element, just stupid Scifi.

  9. #1089
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    Quote Originally Posted by everydaygamer View Post
    1. Leia surviving being blown into space. That entire scene had to be one of the stupidest things to ever happen in a Star Wars film.
    Not just the worst in star wars films, that scene looked like it was out of some shitty scify budget movie, it was terrible.

  10. #1090
    Quote Originally Posted by Peggle View Post
    Either that or more of a grey jedi training. Balancing the force in the training instead of focussing solely on the light. The balance of the force was a big part of this film, so im sure that will play a role. And training a new generation of Jedi that are balanced with the force would fit into that.

    With the line from Snoke talking about a a resurgence in the light to balance out Kylo kinda to me makes the whole balance of the force mean an equivalent on both sides, and less of grey jedi who are "balanced" but who knows.

    I honestly wouldn't mind if down the road we see a new generation of Jedis and Sith. Much like the story of how the first two force users became. Kind of like the cycle has completed and Rey/Kylo represent/are the first two force users, and they go on to train a new generation. By this I mean not the rule of 2 but a generation of sith. Though that thought is pretty far out there.
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  11. #1091
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan11d7 View Post
    I have a feeling we will see the "rule of 2" with the Jedi going forward. Not that it is going to be the new Jedi Rule, but I don't see a new generation of Jedi being trained, but rather an apprentice maybe.
    I dunno, I think they might shake it up. We know that the next trilogy won't be part of the saga stuff, and that the next saga trilogy seemingly won't pick up right after IX, so I imagine IX is going to blow open the universe for different things happening around the galaxy that isn't focused on the next Empire, or the next Rebellion, or the next pair of Jedi and Sith duos.

  12. #1092
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peggle View Post
    Either that or more of a grey jedi training.
    REALLY hoping for this to be the path they take. It would make sense really: Every time one of the orders gets too powerful, the other rises up, takes over and is in charge for a while. They never have balance because they see themselves as rival powers, fighting for control.

    The only way Balance can be attained, is by merging the two orders and forging something that utilises the best parts of BOTH of their teachings. I have a strong feeling that by the end of episode IX, Rey and Ren will be the leaders of a new Grey order and balance will FINALLY be possible.
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  13. #1093
    Quote Originally Posted by Peggle View Post
    Not just the worst in star wars films, that scene looked like it was out of some shitty scify budget movie, it was terrible.

    I enjoyed that Leia actually went and used the Force actively instead of just passively feeling things. But I think people don't really understand that getting sucked into space isn't the incredibly violent death that sci-fi makes it out to be. You'd really just asphyxiate.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/what-happens-to-the-unprotected-human-body-in-space/

    Cheerful lack of self-preservation

  14. #1094
    Quote Originally Posted by Peggle View Post
    Not just the worst in star wars films, that scene looked like it was out of some shitty scify budget movie, it was terrible.
    I didn't think it looked bad really. I mean, worst in Star Wars? Have you seen the prequels, especially The Phantom Menace recently?

    Quote Originally Posted by spleen1015 View Post
    It's not even that. It's like the Fifth Element, just stupid Scifi.
    Why? Because of Luke and Snoke?

  15. #1095
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veredyn View Post

    I enjoyed that Leia actually went and used the Force actively instead of just passively feeling things. But I think people don't really understand that getting sucked into space isn't the incredibly violent death that sci-fi makes it out to be. You'd really just asphyxiate.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/what-happens-to-the-unprotected-human-body-in-space/

    It was more the explosion that i thought should have killed her. I was happy to see her finally using force powers, just a shame it had to be in that scene

  16. #1096
    Quote Originally Posted by Veredyn View Post

    I enjoyed that Leia actually went and used the Force actively instead of just passively feeling things. But I think people don't really understand that getting sucked into space isn't the incredibly violent death that sci-fi makes it out to be. You'd really just asphyxiate.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/what-happens-to-the-unprotected-human-body-in-space/

    Incorrect, You would freeze to death in seconds.

  17. #1097
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    I didn't think it looked bad really. I mean, worst in Star Wars? Have you seen the prequels, especially The Phantom Menace recently?
    I prefer to forget that film even exists, in my mind tPM never happened and the plaguies book is canon. Yep.

    I was obviously exagerating a bit, I did think the scene was terrible though, especially the way she flew looked super weird.

  18. #1098
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallahadd View Post
    REALLY hoping for this to be the path they take. It would make sense really: Every time one of the orders gets too powerful, the other rises up, takes over and is in charge for a while. They never have balance because they see themselves as rival powers, fighting for control.

    The only way Balance can be attained, is by merging the two orders and forging something that utilises the best parts of BOTH of their teachings. I have a strong feeling that by the end of episode IX, Rey and Ren will be the leaders of a new Grey order and balance will FINALLY be possible.
    I doubt it will happen, jedi and sith are the two extremes of the Force, rich with conflict, and Star Wars is all about dat conflict. We might at some point see some version of balance, but what does balance between the light and dark even look like? Bounty hunters? War suppliers? Even then, I still think sith and jedi would exist.

  19. #1099
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan11d7 View Post
    Incorrect, You would freeze to death in seconds.
    Actually you would not, at least not right away. The whole point of space is that it's space. There isn't even much in the way of atoms. With no atoms to bleed kinetic energy (ie. heat) from the atoms in your body, you wouldn't freeze. Eventually yes, but it would be slow depending on how far away from anything you are. And you'd be quite dead long before it happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peggle View Post
    It was more the explosion that i thought should have killed her. I was happy to see her finally using force powers, just a shame it had to be in that scene
    Fair point, I suppose. Could have reflex/panic shielded herself, but that's more of an EU thing and we don't see much in the way of that in the movies outside of Yoda's tutaminis against Dooku and Sidious in Ep. II/III
    Cheerful lack of self-preservation

  20. #1100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    I didn't think it looked bad really. I mean, worst in Star Wars? Have you seen the prequels, especially The Phantom Menace recently?



    Why? Because of Luke and Snoke?
    I mean it was just stupid. Not even that.

    All of the stupid comedy. That's not what Star Wars is.
    - Luke milking whatever that creature was then drinking it. It looks like puss.
    - Rose is a stupid character. Just plain stupid.
    - The whole casino plotline was lame.
    - The whole 'we'll delay our deaths because their ships aren't as fast as ours'. That's like TV B-movie level stuff.
    - The Leia in space thing. Lame.
    - I liked the Kylo & Rey interaction.
    - I'm not sure how I feel about Snoke's death. Seems kind of lame because the character was built up so much and we still don't know jack about him.
    - I'm okay with Luke dying, but the force projection thing across the universe is kind of lame since we've never seen it before.

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