Miss Iraq forced to flee country over Instagram photo alongside Miss Israel

[Usernameforforums]

The history behind the conflict between the arabs and israel in Jerusalem the last 70 years, created so much hate and bad stigma between eachother.

and since the arabs where the one who lost, anyone taking a picture with any kind of Israeli is considered a traitor and should die.

Try something like 5000 years. Maybe even more. The birth between countries?

[Teaon]

Try something like 5000 years. Maybe even more. The birth between countries?

bad blood exist between nations and countries for longer conflicts that are done, but they try to "forget" it.

but since this case is still ongoing, and Trump action regarding Israel capital invoked the "sleeping" hate again and fueled it more.

[Zelk]

I mean Israel is seen as a terrorist organisation in other middle eastern countries. Bit like being Miss GB and saying you believe in love and peace with Miss Al Qaeda.

[Teaon]

I mean Israel is seen as a terrorist organisation in other middle eastern countries. Bit like being Miss GB and saying you believe in love and peace with Miss Al Qaeda.

Or Miss Israeli saying you believe in love and peace with Miss Nazi Germany( if that country existed till now ).

[downnola]

No, not really.

They could be Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Sikh/atheist/whatever and have beliefs that are perfectly compatible with mine, or be Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Sikh/atheist/whatever and have beliefs that are abhorrent to me.

I still can’t grasp the mindset, it is alien to me. I have friends of different religious and political views, male and female, straight and gay, etc., but I didn’t pick them because of those things, nor would I have rejected them based on those things, I judged them on their individual merits.

How closed minded and reactionary of you.

[ls-]

Of course you don't understand, you live a happy life of wealth and privilege that you were born into, where bloody generational internecine civil conflict is an unthinkable thing that happens to other people.

Damn, that's a weird statement.

[Frolk]

I'm not sure which are worse. Death threats because she is stood with Miss Israel or death threats because she is Iraqi and showing a bit of skin.

Poor lass

Thats what u get when ur in a 3rd world country, nothing new, sadly.

[Saverem]

Whenever I think I'm living in a fucked corrupt government in the US, I take a look at the news coming from those shitty middle eastern countries and I thank my lord and savior, Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, I don't live in those backwards shit heaps of a country.

[Gohzerlock]

Some people take religion way too seriously.

[Spookysheep]

Notice how much prettier Miss Israel is than Miss Iraq? No contest even.

[Siraeyou]

By stating she wished for peace between the two countries, she has already committed what her people would consider "harm to the palestinian cause" since she is 1: Acknowledging that Israel is a country (which Palestinians don't) and 2) Wants to cooperate with them on some degree (which Palestinians don't)

[Mormolyce]

Other people like my father, uncles, aunts and cousins.

I am the son of a Middle Eastern refugee. Some of my family can’t live in their own homes, because where they are situated is under occupation by a foreign military force following civil conflict.

But you yourself were not raised in that environment. You were raised in the first world in a life of comfort, safety and security.

[downnola]

But you yourself were not raised in that environment. You were raised in the first world in a life of comfort, safety and security.

You're chiding him for not understanding bigotry based on information that is completely arbitrary. Think about it and let it sink in for a moment.

Who else is known to judge people based on arbitrary circumstances?

[Video Games]

Don't worry. Feminism will save her!

[Mormolyce]

You're chiding him for not understanding bigotry based on information that is completely arbitrary.

I'm not actually talking about bigotry.

[Deleted]

I'm not actually talking about bigotry.

You're so full of propaganda, it is literally bursting out of you and has taken over any previous knowledge or mental faculties you might have had. He literally told you his life story and his family's life story, that they all suffered from greathardship and yet somehow still maintained their empathetic, sane person rationale, and yet all you can blurt out is this drivel. It's like you saw that you were quoted but ignored actually reading what he said and just erupted in idiocy, grasping at straws in the saddest, most desperate way to not have your completely out-of-the-ass point be annihilated, obviously failing spectacularly in the process. Bravo.

[Kalis]

But you yourself were not raised in that environment. You were raised in the first world in a life of comfort, safety and security.

Not relevant because “One of my cousins lived through both, being kicked out of one country alongside my father and fighting civil war in another, yet he also can’t grasp that mindset”, so it clearly has nothing to do with having lived through that.

You also claimed that “...bloody generational internecine civil conflict is an unthinkable thing that happens to other people”, yet I voluntarily signed up for military service precisely because I don’t think it is unthinkable, nor that it could only happen to other people. I signed up because it has happened before in my lifetime, because I have seen the devastation it causes and because a third of Cyprus is still under foreign military occupation.

I am also under no illusion that we’d have a hope in hell of winning any war with Turkey, as their military is roughly equal to the entire population of Cyprus.

Do not presume to know what people who have lived through those situations think, nor what I think, you cannot read minds.

[Grimbold21]

This is a discussion on the mythical white privilege isnt it

[Deleted]

Just seems like that whole area is just a huge, shining beacon of tolerance and understanding.

[Astalnar]

And now we're supposed to say this has nothing to do with majority religion in Iraq? Yes, let's avoid elephant in the room. I wonder, how is it that I am quite certain that if Miss Poland took pictures with Miss Israel, she wouldn't have to flee the country for it.