"One day, Silvermoon will stand on the side of the Alliance, I know it"

[Kallisto]

Garithos wasn't apart of the modern Alliance, he was apart of Lordaeron.

There has only been 1 alliance. There isn't some old alliance and new alliance there has only been the alliance. This is from Blizzard themselves.

In TFT Garithos was the ruler of the Alliance he was in charge and therefore his actions were the actions of the alliance. Even then the Blood elves were willing to go back to the Alliance as their first choice. But there the ambassador meant to negotiate with them was willing along with Night Elves basically have them all killed off by sabotaging the Sin'dorei biggest defense against the scourge, without which could easily have the Sin'dorei overrun. Not forgetting Dalaran doing nothing to help their allies when Garithos was trying kill them all for the gall of not dieing on a suicide mission. That's 3 betrayals from Alliance BEFORE the Sin'dorei joined the horde.

Then there is the purge of Dalaran in which Jaina and her lapdog went to kill anything with green eyes and long ears because Jaina doesn't understand how to be rational.

[Firen]

There has only been 1 alliance. There isn't some old alliance and new alliance there has only been the alliance. This is from Blizzard themselves.

In TFT Garithos was the ruler of the Alliance he was in charge and therefore his actions were the actions of the alliance.

But by that logic Garrosh was leader of the Horde and therefore all of his actions were the action of the whole Horde. Is that how it works? Nope.

[Shibito]

Garithos wasn't apart of the modern Alliance, he was apart of Lordaeron.

Which you claim was alliance in every other conversation, so yes Garithos was alliance. Check mate.

[Zorish]

care to give a source of that phrase?

[Darktbs]

*Knock Knock*

*Lor'themar opens the door and picks up a letter on the ground*

"We are even now, this is a little present from a friend of mine to you made by me."

-a Gift form Theramore"

-What the ....


*A Void infulsed bomb blows up Silvermoon*

[Aquamonkey]

But by that logic Garrosh was leader of the Horde and therefore all of his actions were the action of the whole Horde. Is that how it works? Nope.

They were up until the rebellion split off from his Horde.

[Deleted]

That piece of dialogue also seems to happen before the she was lolnope-ed by Lor'themar.

[Firen]

Not sure if someone already provided a screenshot of it.

[Friendlyimmolation]

She'll just go about killing civilians in Quel'thalas while screaming "LOOK HOW GOOD THE ALLIANCE IS." I can see it now.


But seriously, I can't believe they dropped her to Vereesa's level, what a shame.

[Kathranis]

*Knock Knock*

*Lor'themar opens the door and picks up a letter on the ground*

"We are even now, this is a little present from a friend of mine to you made by me."

-a Gift form Theramore"

-What the ....


*A Void infulsed bomb blows up Silvermoon*

What did Lor'themar have to do with Theramore?

[stomination]

Repeated betrayals when it was only Garithos that betrayed them, not humanity as a whole.

Yea and that whole army didn't march away too.

[Goremonger]

But by that logic Garrosh was leader of the Horde and therefore all of his actions were the action of the whole Horde. Is that how it works? Nope.

Not really, no Garrosh made it clear that Thrall's horde was not apart of his "True Horde" nor was his actions in the Iron Horde related to Thralls Horde. There are many hordes, Fel Horde, Dark Horde, Old Horde, honestly Orcs need to come up with a new name for their factions.

[Crimsonfiend76]

While it sucks what happened to Theramore, please don't equate an atrocity that happened to a small alliance controlled island off the eastern coast of Kalimdor outside some backwoods swamp with the ancestral home and city of the high elf civilization.

[Blayze]

Bear in mind, people, that this can still come true if BfA is the last hurrah of the two-faction system.
After Legion reduced Argus to a single questchain pretending to be three zones, anything's possible.

[Blamblam41]

- Alleria Windrunner's new line on ptr.

Please. Make it happen. That would be glorious to see Lor'Themar being kicked out from Quel'Thalas.

Nah, just make Lorthremar defect and make Aethas the new snivvling elf leader. That way the Alliance gets the best cities, the best leaders as their rightful place as the Uniters of Azeroth.

Something something Horde, sylvannas blah blah blah. I remain unconvinced the Horde can even be considered a 'global power', let alone a 'global superpower' that Horde players think they are.

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Bear in mind, people, that this can still come true if BfA is the last hurrah of the two-faction system.
After Legion reduced Argus to a single questchain pretending to be three zones, anything's possible.

I fully expect BfA to end in a "mutually assured destruction" stalemate with Azerite WMDs or a fully united Azeroth. Either way, it completely defangs and removes the faction war as a plot line going further, exactly what the game needs tbfh.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

It's cute that Alleria thinks they are going to ever re-do Quel'thalas to show any changes.

Well, I support Alleria on this quest, she better bring Vereesa along.

First incursion, and the Silver Covenant gets decimated and Vereesa dead. We resolve that thread, and we can have the next 10 years of Alleria and the void elves just swearing revenge.

But really, I don't care if the alliance gets Quel'thalas, they shouldn't really, but I want elven civil war with all my heart; make all that political dissent and exile and animosity actually pay off.

[Kiri]

Not really, no Garrosh made it clear that Thrall's horde was not apart of his "True Horde" nor was his actions in the Iron Horde related to Thralls Horde. There are many hordes, Fel Horde, Dark Horde, Old Horde, honestly Orcs need to come up with a new name for their factions.

It is funny how there are many different Hordes, but Alliance is always considered one continuous, uniform blob. Let's just be real here and acknowledge that Blizzard needs a thesaurus badly.

[Arrashi]

Nah, just make Lorthremar defect and make Aethas the new snivvling elf leader. That way the Alliance gets the best cities, the best leaders as their rightful place as the Uniters of Azeroth.

Something something Horde, sylvannas blah blah blah. I remain unconvinced the Horde can even be considered a 'global power', let alone a 'global superpower' that Horde players think they are.

But of those two Aethas is the one who could defect while theron has no real interest. That is obvious for anyone with even minimal understanding of lore.

[Linkedblade]

Repeated betrayals when it was only Garithos that betrayed them, not humanity as a whole.

Nope. It has nothing to do with the Crown Prince walking an army through their kingdom and killing 90% of the population and corrupting the sunwell

[ello]

she better btfo. Losing undercity was one thing, but silvermoon? not cool.