And that's the most stupid thing about placements. Why even bother with them when all you're going to end up is near your last season even if you play like a madman and win every match with 5 golds etc
And anyways it's fucking almost impossible to climb in this shit game. You'll have to win 4 match to gain somepoints against 1 loss, and even then it would take 500 matches to gain 100 points
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I didn't end near my last season at all. Last season I played was S4. I got to rank 3700 without breaking a sweat, nearly 90% winrate. Then I got bored. Didn't play S5 or S6.
Did my placements this week, I ended up playing against top 150 with both our teams an average rank of 4100. (Check my screenshot at end of previous page). Explain that to me. I got placed in Grandmaster. I GAINED almost 400 points from simply doing my placements.
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Do you solo Q? Widow in itself isn't bad, even for payload maps. If you get an important first pick, then the rest of the team should move in, since it's essentially a 5v6. At GM rank the first pick usually defines the outcome of the battle, unless we're talking ults.
You should not be placed based on 10 games alone. If you're lucky or happen to play a lot better than you usually do in comp, you will end up in a rank that is too high for you where you can't compete. That is so bad for everyone else that is unlucky to get you in their team. The opposit if you happen to play unusually bad.
There should indeed be a bigger trial period to really determine where you belong. This system is flawed, a lot of noobs have gotten lucky and a lot of really good players are stuck in 2-3 ranks below what they should play, due to solo queue
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Yes, it's a weird system. I am stuck at Platinum. Soloqueing to Diamond is not realistic, with a 50% winrate, which you seem to get regardless how well you play :/ I am at about 2700 but honestly, I should be at 3500+, got the aim and the attitude for it as well as many years high ranked CS experience of gaming, almost went professional at a point. This is not meant as brag, but rather as a hint that this comp system is broken, as it prevent people to achive their rightful (god I sound like a douche but it's true) rank. Hopefully, next placement will take me to atleast Diamond and give me a fair chance to soloqueue my way to Master rank, where I think i belong.
man i dont know what to do anymore. do 11.5k damage, go 33-10 and some cucklord dps main on your team is saying "you didn't do much" and you lose. spend an entire match playing like said cucklord and you win.
Thats enough damage to kill most heroes nearly 60 times. So with that figure in mind I'd personally like to be closer to 45 since I know it's not the most efficient investment of my damage, but I also knew it wouldn't be because of how difficult it was to stay in the back without dying. However, I feel like roughly anywhere from 4500-5000 damage was a lot of slack for my team to work with. My eliminations to damage done ratio is usually pretty perpendicular by comparison, but this still wasn't a bad game for me.
Are they right? Because I don't know anymore dude. I just don't know. I'm playing these great games and I am losing, just like when I took a break last time and had such a hard time getting back into the game. I'm so frustrated because I feel like I am doing more than enough to win and I wish we had a real scoreboard so I could see the stats of these shitmongers.
The only thing I felt was really wrong was the speed of my team. Not to be like "it's my team, not me" because thats what every delusional player says but it's like the flow of a typical match has gotten much slower and for the past 2 days players have been much more fixated on me. The cheesers like Junkrat and Hanzo are more consistent at fucking me when i need to not die, Orissa players are smarter about sitting point blank to play around their shields, Moira players want my blood, Mercys are staying closer to their teams, Soldiers are more trigger happy with their rockets and Winston players aren't even close to interested in testing me - it's almost like they already know I'll kick their shit in.
I had another game that started well earlier, but after handily winning attack and going on defense and coming out with a wonky ass team comp they were all like "man why are you so serious? it'll be ok" like no man it won't be ok. Symmetra and Torbjorn's winrates along with Zen, Mercy, Reinhardt and Orissa are so much higher than every other hero's winrates for a reason you dipshit and that's because it's harder for most people to win attack games than it is to win defense games.
yeah man, sure. i'm being an asshole. but it's because i want to win and we don't have the time for me to hold their hand and explain to them why I can statistically prove that our chances of winning are awful based on our comp and my own perception of enemy skill but by the time we got done talking, the enemy would be halfway through scoring 3.
And that's assuming they'd want to listen to anything I have to say. i just feel like there needs to be another competitive mode because games like that are quickplay quality and if i wanted to play to quickplay, i'd go to quickplay and leave matches i didn't want to play in.
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Well, they are, but doesn't change the fact that I feel misplaced. I mean, I have competitive esport in my blood, been playing at really high CS level, was Global Elite for 3 years more or less and came far in various tournaments (never went for professional though), it's not the same game, but the principal of high ranked gameplay remains. Also, an irl mate, who sadly quit after season two, was the 5th highest ranked Zenyatta in the world for season 1, was chocked I was not higher ranked after we played some. Again, not trying to seem like a douche, just saying the system is very flawed.
Just go to yt look for solo que ppl getting to diamond, check some forums other then this, ppl when from 1,5k to diamond in one season by playing symetra only. I mean yea its harder going solo and takes alot of time/effort but its possible.
Im rly bad, i mean rly rly bad, ill try to stick to lower skill cap heroes and still did rank up kinda fast playing solo most of the time.
Not to brag or anything but i do belive that even tho there is alot of throwers and toxic ppl you can still enjoy the game and climb higher even at your own.
Sorry but in my experience the system is not broken. I started playing OW in S2. I reached Masters with a LOT of effort (I was new to the game just for 3-4 weeks). Mostly playing DPS (Pharah usually, back then she wasn't buffed yet and shitty to play). I started at around 2100 after my placements and it took me 66 hours to reach Masters. Then I was satisfied, I had reached my goal and earned my golden Pharah weapon.
I didn't play S3. During S4 I had a better PC (And thus being more stable, my shitty PC crashed mid-game every now and then). 85% winrate as Pharah spread over a total of almost 6 hours of gameplay. And this was easy compared to my struggle since S2. I just got bored of comp once I reached around 3700 rating so I let it decay, meh.
I solo Q'd all my games. I crawled my way up. My point is, maybe you think you belong in Masters, but apparently not. If I can manage to get to Grandmaster on my own (And almost always carrying the games, even more-so during S4) then other people should be able to do so aswell. UNLESS they are lesser skilled. But when I got placed in the 4100 game, together with top 500, I didn't belong there. I am not that flexible and good at every hero. When I played in the Grandmaster ratings, I felt like my solo impact on the team was less than at around 3700 rating where I carried. It's more about an effective team at that skill rating. Sure one person can stand out, but in my experience of those few games I played, it's almost impossible to solo carry your team. I had to really focus at 4k+, and play it safe and not as aggressive as my normal Pharah. It's a HUGE difference.
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I end up in the worst imaginable teams possible, HOW did you possibly get out of Platinum. There is ZERO communication, Zero conterpicks and people pick terrible heroes and have awful aim. It feels like It's nearly impossible to get out solo queue, as win rate is 50% or less. I mean, we should play some games, just casual of course, and I will show you my point.
Finally did all of my placements, won 8 out of 10 and got my lowest rank ever, really makes me wish they'd just remove placements if you've placed for the last 2-3 seasons.
It has been proven time and time again that you can climb to the rank you belong to.
You simply think you're better than you are.
And everyone gets shitty teams. You just think you get it more than others(or rather; you think everyone is playing like shit while you're not - but in reality that's not the case).
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most recent games.....way more 1 trick pony's....today was the worst...when i died most of the time i went to our teams hanzo......not seen him hit once :S:S
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It was a bad run that lasted nearly a fortnight, not even playing every day. I did stop, repeatedly. The bad run didn’t. There’s no system of ‘stop for a bit and it’ll improve your luck when you go back’. You just have to hope it plays through and your SR gains eventually outweigh losses. This happened at the start of the season, but not nearly for so long but recovered from 2100 to get back to over 2400 again inside a week. I have been here before, I have no doubt in my ability to get back to where I was again. It’s just incredible frustrating that this shit should be allowed to happen, to go on a win one, lose 1, have a match thrown for me, cycle.
I was kicking around 2400 just fine playing Widow with a 53% Win Rate, I know where and when to use her, again she was less than half my total hours as I spent most time split playing DVa and Orisa because tanks are important. No one said anything, I just got on with what I was doing. These losses aren’t just about me playing Widow, it doesn’t necessarily help when people tilt over it, but since so much of the rest of my time is on other heroes, it’s not fully responsible for it; i can and do still lose when I play DVa, Orisa, Mercy or Pharah. It’s increasingly hard to tank for premades who are just there play with their friends, because although they insist on having a tank, they’re too busy playing together or trying to be the hero carry for their friend running into 1v6s, to actually play with or around you.
I’m not going to not play Widow a) because I want to, and b) because she’s good, and c) because I don’t want fucking idiots reducing the pool of heroes that can be played through bullying - which is exactly whats happening to the game. Like I say, I know where and when to use her, I know when to switch, and can play enough other heroes to be able to. And I did just fine early this season and late last season to climb with her.