Video gaming disorder to be officially recognised for first time

[Strawberry]

Here are a couple of articles:

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ed-first-time/

https://www.technologyreview.com/the...nly-thinks-so/

Now you can finally get that health benefit from playing video games
First thing I'm going to do in 2018 is call my boss and tell her I'm sick because I'm playing video games.

[Super Kami Dende]

Wat. It's a Hobby. Sure people can be addicted to it, but you can be addicted to anything.

They say it's when Video Games take precedent over other aspects of your life. I'm pretty sure if I asked my Mate who loves Fishing if he'd rather be fishing than doing 99% of anything else he does weekly he'd say "yes"

[therealstegblob]

It's just recognizing video games as something you can be actually addicted to. Some medical experts and people like that have already considered "video game addiction" to be a real thing, but I guess now the WHO is adding in that they recognize it, too.

I don't really consider video game addiction to be a specific enough addiction to require special attention, myself. People can become addicted to literally anything to the point it's a problem with their lives. I think video games only fall under a "miscellaneous addiction" category.

[Celista]

Where is that dude who was arguing with me about video game disorder in the video game addiction thread?

Oh that's right. @A dot Ham

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Wat. It's a Hobby. Sure people can be addicted to it, but you can be addicted to anything.

They say it's when Video Games take precedent over other aspects of your life. I'm pretty sure if I asked my Mate who loves Fishing if he'd rather be fishing than doing 99% of anything else he does weekly he'd say "yes"

Well addiction and disorder is different. The mental health community considers something to be a disorder when it adversely impacts social, occupational, educational functioning.

Psychologists differ on the definition of an addiction. The prevailing sentiment was that behavioral "addictions" like gambling should not be considered addictions because chemical addictions create a dependency in the brain that behavioral addictions do not. But the current neuroscience research coming out (which is very new) indicates that for gambling use disorder at least, neurological response mimics those with cocaine addiction.

My opinion is that more behavioral addictions will be classified as true addictons at some point, pending more research.

[Trassk]

Oh joy, now the anti gaming nutcases who blame violence committed by young adults on any form of popular media just got given more fodder

[Deletedaccount1]

I definitely used to have this.

[Mifuyne]

You can get addicted to video games, it's not a disorder.
It means you have a different kind of disorder - which has nothing to do with video games.
Video game addiction can be the result of a disorder, not the other way around.

[Video Games]

If i can actually get on disability, I'm gonna be so happy.

[Mifuyne]

If i can actually get on disability, I'm gonna be so happy.

Why not work on the underlaying problem that makes you addicted to games? :0

[Puupi]

You can get addicted to video games, it's not a disorder.
It means you have a different kind of disorder - which has nothing to do with video games.
Video game addiction can be the result of a disorder, not the other way around.

I love it when I see people who actually understand causality properly.

[Independent voter]

All those nanny states in Europe are going to have hundreds of thousands of gamers on disability.

[Mifuyne]

All those nanny states in Europe are going to have hundreds of thousands of gamers on disability.

Not happening since this is just a effect of certain disorders.
They'd have to be treated for the disorder if this kind of addiction takes over their lives.
I'd assume most people with this problem are already in the healthcare system.

Well addiction and disorder is different. The mental health community considers something to be a disorder when it adversely impacts social, occupational, educational functioning.

Psychologists differ on the definition of an addiction. The prevailing sentiment was that behavioral "addictions" like gambling should not be considered addictions because chemical addictions create a dependency in the brain that behavioral addictions do not. But the current neuroscience research coming out (which is very new) indicates that for gambling use disorder at least, neurological response mimics those with cocaine addiction.

My opinion is that more behavioral addictions will be classified as true addictons at some point, pending more research.

Increased dependency and ultimately addiction (can be literally anything you can think of) comes from disorders.
Many people have these disorders but you generally only see the ones where the disorder has a negative effect.
In and itself addiction is a result, otherwise every single one of us would be addicted to everything.

It's the same case for those people that kill people "due to playing violent games".
People don't suddenly become killing machines by playing violent games.
It's the underlaying issues that trigger it.

I love it when I see people who actually understand causality properly.

Not sure if making fun of me or being honest.
Autism and MMO-C don't go well together!

[Strawberry]

Why not work on the underlaying problem that makes you addicted to games? :0

Because taxpayer money is easy money and taxpayer tears taste sweet

[Mifuyne]

Because taxpayer money is easy money and taxpayer tears taste sweet

I've been on the government paycheck since I was 18. It's hardly easy comparing it to the daily struggle but I am quite thankful for there to be such a thing.
Think the only ones that enjoy seeing taxpayers cry are the ones abusing the system.

[Deleted]

The draft definition is the vaguest most irrational, non descriptive of actual addiction thing ever... Just read the draft for yourself:

"someone has gaming disorder if they give increasing priority to gaming “to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other life interests”"

This is a definition of having one hobby over another. Normal disorder definitions define it as something life disrupting, where a person cannot stop even at the cost of his life detoriation. In other words, when you put gaming above basic and important elements of maslowes pyramid of needs. For example you starve yourself, you cant go to sleep, you give up on work and income and set yourself up for aviction etc. Thats how a heroin addiction is, thats a real addiction but "taking precendence over other life interests" is nowhere near that. Its like saying, you could do sports but you choose to play halo! you are addicted! YOU COULD PAINT MINIATURE SOLDIERS BUT YOU PLAY WOW! ADDICT!.

Will watch for the final draft. This seems shifty as fuck. It seems they want to watter down addiction to include it not make it meet the requirements of being an addiction.

[ParanoiD84]

Sounds like a excuse to stay home and play even more videogames making no lifers even more no lifers who contribute absoulutely nothing to society.

[Deleted]

youd be happy to stamp documents all day even even if you throw them all into a shredder right after. You have a vested interest, one which you life strongly depends on to defend government bureaucracy. You should recluse yourself from the topic. Government inefficiency is a common knowledge, non partisan one. You are a small tiny fish, you dont have means to abuse the system and steal taxpayer money via legal means but those up top can and will and do laugh about it. Especially so in the usa where lobbying is legal and money is speach... which it isnt.

This desperate attempt to include gaming into list of disorders is one such lobbying result. Imagine the untapped potential of a market filled with parents eagerly waiting to abuse their kids becasue they think theres something wrong with them playing games alot when the tv and lobbyists feed them with gaming is evil and unhealthy memes since atleast 20 years.

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Sounds like a excuse to stay home and play even more videogames making no lifers even more no lifers who contribute absoulutely nothing to society.

What contribution to society you expect from a teenager? Also people who can pay their rent and taxes and prefer to stay home and play games the rest of their day are perfectly fine and respectable in doing so. This sounds rather, like corrupt lobbying system in attempt to label something a disorder in order to legally tap into a pottentialy huge market of "treatable" children sent to a rehab torture camp by their ignorant brainwashed idiot parents. Hey as long as they want it to be an disorder so they can pay you for pushing your kid arround the only obstacle in the way is legally saying it treatable, nothing a little corruption cant do.

[Strawberry]

I've been on the government paycheck since I was 18. It's hardly easy comparing it to the daily struggle but I am quite thankful for there to be such a thing.
Think the only ones that enjoy seeing taxpayers cry are the ones abusing the system.

I'm on the government paycheck as well. I work for the government

The system should be abused by the working class.

I remember hearing a quote from was it Kennedy?
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
It's like, hey we control you, and you're a modern slave, now be thankful for that and do more.

[ParanoiD84]

youd be happy to stamp documents all day even even if you throw them all into a shredder right after. You have a vested interest, one which you life strongly depends on to defend government bureaucracy. You should recluse yourself from the topic. Government inefficiency is a common knowledge, non partisan one. You are a small tiny fish, you dont have means to abuse the system and steal taxpayer money via legal means but those up top can and will and do laugh about it. Especially so in the usa where lobbying is legal and money is speach... which it isnt.

This desperate attempt to include gaming into list of disorders is one such lobbying result. Imagine the untapped potential of a market filled with parents eagerly waiting to abuse their kids becasue they think theres something wrong with them playing games alot when the tv and lobbyists feed them with gaming is evil and unhealthy memes since atleast 20 years.

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What contribution to society you expect from a teenager? Also people who can pay their rent and taxes and prefer to stay home and play games the rest of their day are perfectly fine and respectable in doing so. This sounds rather, like corrupt lobbying system in attempt to label something a disorder in order to legally tap into a pottentialy huge market of "treatable" children sent to a rehab torture camp by their ignorant brainwashed idiot parents. Hey as long as they want it to be an disorder so they can pay you for pushing your kid arround the only obstacle in the way is legally saying it treatable, nothing a little corruption cant do.

Doubt only teens will take advantage of this, and all this videogame disorder just sounds like a lack of will power to me, in reality all it takes is one thought to get you out of the chair and do something else if people cant even act on a thought they have bigger issues then a videogame disorder.

What will happen when they get to stay home? Will there be treatment, medication or psycology meetings or are they just saying they have a disorder and that's it. Seems like alot of people will take advantage of this to stay home and play videogames all day everyday.

Wonder how long untill they add smartphone addiction to that list.

[Puupi]

Not sure if making fun of me or being honest.
Autism and MMO-C don't go well together!

Being honest.