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    i3 8350 build

    I finally convinced my wife to let me build her a PC for warcraft instead using her Mac. I'm really interesting in a build using the new i3 8350. I hear they are in short supply but at the moment it does not matter it will not be until tax time. I am looking for about a $600 dollar U.S. build. I have a gtx 950 or a gtx 760 ti I can put in it I am not sure which is better. My wife does not raid but does run M+. Any advice and Ideas for the build will be greatly appreciated. I would like around a 250 gig SSD in it.

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.45 @ OutletPC)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.63 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($105.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.88 @ OutletPC)
    Case: DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.88 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec - 450W ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $653.79
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 09:38 EST-0500

    did you mean 750 ti? or 760? 950 should be better either way
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    A few things i would change about that part list:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.45 @ OutletPC)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.63 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.98 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $601.02
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 09:49 EST-0500

    - RAM as 1x8GB instead of 2x4GB, so you can easily expand later on. (Dual channel is not that important for intel cpus)
    - I would forgo the hard drive for now. If his wife needs more storage, it always can be added later on. Picked a M.2 model for the SSD
    - That case looks totally cheap and plastic. Fractal is more along my taste. The case can be had also in black, red and blue.
    - Power supply without 80+ certification? For a little more, i stuffed a trusty Seasonic in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biernot View Post
    - That case looks totally cheap and plastic. Fractal is more along my taste. The case can be had also in black, red and blue.
    - Power supply without 80+ certification? For a little more, i stuffed a trusty Seasonic in there.
    Case is just 'there' as a filler.
    Power supply certification is just for show
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnok View Post
    I finally convinced my wife to let me build her a PC for warcraft instead using her Mac. I'm really interesting in a build using the new i3 8350. I hear they are in short supply but at the moment it does not matter it will not be until tax time. I am looking for about a $600 dollar U.S. build. I have a gtx 950 or a gtx 760 ti I can put in it I am not sure which is better. My wife does not raid but does run M+. Any advice and Ideas for the build will be greatly appreciated. I would like around a 250 gig SSD in it.
    No offense, but come back at tax time. Computer parts are a volatile industry and things change weekly/daily at times. Best to not try to plan too far in advance, so come back when it's closer to time to purchase because we could do a build now, but different things will be on sale at tax time.

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    Thanks for the replies, the 2nd card is a gtx 760 not sure why I put the ti in there. I buy most of my stuff from amazon so I just add items to my watch list and wanted to get an idea of what to add to the list. The last computer I built was 2yrs ago I used a skylake i5 6500 and pretty sure I went a bit overboard with the motherboard. I bought a H170 pro gaming board from asus. I mean it has old style mouse and keyboard ports on it. I don't want to pay for stuff I don't need again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biernot View Post
    - RAM as 1x8GB instead of 2x4GB, so you can easily expand later on. (Dual channel is not that important for intel cpus)
    This seems a bizarre bit of advice. Granted, in a GPU-bound scenario you won't lose much but when CPU-bound, you'll easily lose 10-20% performance for no apparent benefit by going single-channel since all but mini-ITX boards have 4 RAM slots (unless you mean to upgrade to a 4x8GB setup which seems rather wasteful for the foreseeable future).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barael View Post
    This seems a bizarre bit of advice. Granted, in a GPU-bound scenario you won't lose much but when CPU-bound, you'll easily lose 10-20% performance for no apparent benefit by going single-channel since all but mini-ITX boards have 4 RAM slots (unless you mean to upgrade to a 4x8GB setup which seems rather wasteful for the foreseeable future).
    Actually, have you searched for such tests? Some games get more FPS with single channel memory. I was skeptical but did some research first, hence why I didn't point it out in my reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barael View Post
    This seems a bizarre bit of advice. Granted, in a GPU-bound scenario you won't lose much but when CPU-bound, you'll easily lose 10-20% performance for no apparent benefit by going single-channel since all but mini-ITX boards have 4 RAM slots (unless you mean to upgrade to a 4x8GB setup which seems rather wasteful for the foreseeable future).
    This used to be true for sure, but please show me some benchmarks with modern intel CPUs where this is the case.

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    I'm under the impression that Dual Channel ram has not mattered for a long, long time. From what I've seen, fractions of a percent.
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    Fair enough, I don't have any recent benchmarks showing that (for Intel CPUs, Ryzen's another matter). Just seems bizarre since the difference in older benchmarks that I did find is so obvious.
    Last edited by Barael; 2017-12-27 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barael View Post
    This seems a bizarre bit of advice. Granted, in a GPU-bound scenario you won't lose much but when CPU-bound, you'll easily lose 10-20% performance for no apparent benefit by going single-channel since all but mini-ITX boards have 4 RAM slots (unless you mean to upgrade to a 4x8GB setup which seems rather wasteful for the foreseeable future).
    Edited: already covered
    Last edited by Kagthul; 2017-12-27 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barael View Post
    Fair enough, I don't have any recent benchmarks showing that (for Intel CPUs, Ryzen's another matter). Just seems bizarre since the difference in older benchmarks that I did find is so obvious.
    Yea, I have no idea why that changed nowadays.
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    The need for dual channel (or high ram clocks) more less went away with DDR3.
    Sure, you still can get some gains, but they are usually in the low single digits. The only exceptions are APUs and to some extend AMD Ryzen.
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