Are cops/first responders out of shape?

[Sinyc]

I watch too much youtube videos of cops, but it seems crazy to me that you can be 300 pounds plus and actually do your your job. Do they not test your health after you graduate?

Obvious troll thread, but I'll bite.

It's a country wide problem, but thanks to unions and other BS rules. Once you are in as a cop (regular city cop, not state highway patrol) you never have to do another physical exam. That IS the problem.

[Hexian]

A 10 minute mile? That's a complete joke. That's an awful pace for a marathon, much less a single mile.

For non-paid people, I don't care. For positions where people are compensated, having some basic fitness standards really isn't too much to ask. Anyone that can't run a 10 minute mile is a such a lazy fuck that they have no business being in a position with any physical demands.

Pace for a marathon? In what fucked up chase in this day and age is going to require a policeman to condition themselves to run 26 miles?

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i'm fairly sure the fire department has standards?

Ya this is just a shitty bait thread at this point.

[Spectral]

Pace for a marathon? In what fucked up chase in this day and age is going to require a policeman to condition themselves to run 26 miles?

It doesn't. My point is that a 10 minute mile is so slow that a reasonably fit person can run faster than that for 26.2 without trouble. Realistically, there's absolutely no good reason for a policeman to fail to run an 8 minute mile. That's still really slow and a really low endurance standard. Basic fitness should be relevant for these jobs.

[Jayburner]

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[Hexian]

It doesn't. My point is that a 10 minute mile is so slow that a reasonably fit person can run faster than that for 26.2 without trouble. Realistically, there's absolutely no good reason for a policeman to fail to run an 8 minute mile. That's still really slow and a really low endurance standard. Basic fitness should be relevant for these jobs.

That a “fit person” can run with no gear or training? You are assuming a lot of these individuals, on both sides.

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And this is why the thread needs to be closed.

[Jayburner]

That a “fit person” can run with no gear or training? You are assuming a lot of these individuals, on both sides.

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And this is why the thread needs to be closed.

thanks for for being the conscience of us all.

[Spectral]

That a “fit person” can run with no gear or training? You are assuming a lot of these individuals, on both sides.

I'm really not assuming much. You could strap 50 pounds to my back and I still wouldn't be breathing hard after a 10 minute mile and I'm a computer nerd with no physical requirements in my job. This shit isn't hard, a lot of cops are just fat and lazy.

[Hexian]

I'm really not assuming much. You could strap 50 pounds to my back and I still wouldn't be breathing hard after a 10 minute mile and I'm a computer nerd with no physical requirements in my job. This shit isn't hard, a lot of cops are just fat and lazy.

I bet you could.

[Spectral]

I bet you could.

Think what you want, I guess. Not really sure what to tell you other than running a decent pace isn't a superhuman feat. People that can't do it are physically pathetic.

[NM 156]

Think what you want, I guess. Not really sure what to tell you other than running a decent pace isn't a superhuman feat. People that can't do it are physically pathetic.

Are you this unsympathetic towards peoples struggles in your day to day life or just online? I put forth an honest effort to say in shape but sometimes my depression gets the best of me.

[Ghostpanther]

A 10 minute mile? That's a complete joke. That's an awful pace for a marathon, much less a single mile.

For non-paid people, I don't care. For positions where people are compensated, having some basic fitness standards really isn't too much to ask. Anyone that can't run a 10 minute mile is a such a lazy fuck that they have no business being in a position with any physical demands.

It is a realistic goal for most police personnel. They are not training to be special forces for overseas operations. If you can do a mile in 10 mins, then you are in decent shape, Good enough for basic police work. When I joined the Army decades ago, that was the same requirement. Some did fail and they did not stay in. Not sure now what the requirement is, but would not surprise me if it was still the min.

[Spectral]

Are you this unsympathetic towards peoples struggles in your day to day life or just online? I put forth an honest effort to say in shape but sometimes my depression gets the best of me.

You probably shouldn't be a cop then.

Yes, I'm just about this unsympathetic in real life. I think it's pathetic when people make excuses for their fitness instead of sucking it up and taking care of their bodies. I don't really have a lot of occasions where the matter would come up and I'm never personally a jerk to people about it, but I have a pretty low opinion of the character of people that let their bodies go to shit.

[Lochton]

I watch too much youtube videos of cops, but it seems crazy to me that you can be 300 pounds plus and actually do your your job. Do they not test your health after you graduate?

You know, you could be quite able to do your job at 300 pounds as a cop, right? I mean, I see people freaking bench shit in the gym around that weight. As well, good cops, doesn't have to be about shape, are still more worth than a burnout cop leaving 3 years later.

[Jayburner]

You know, you could be quite able to do your job at 300 pounds as a cop, right? I mean, I see people freaking bench shit in the gym around that weight. As well, good cops, doesn't have to be about shape, are still more worth than a burnout cop leaving 3 years later.

don't get me wrong lol, i would never argue with a couple 300 pound cops..that would end badly.

[Lochton]

You probably shouldn't be a cop then.

Yes, I'm just about this unsympathetic in real life. I think it's pathetic when people make excuses for their fitness instead of sucking it up and taking care of their bodies. I don't really have a lot of occasions where the matter would come up and I'm never personally a jerk to people about it, but I have a pretty low opinion of the character of people that let their bodies go to shit.

Great, do tell me you don't work in healthcare, personal relations or other social activity jobs.

[Spectral]

It is a realistic goal for most police personnel. They are not training to be special forces for overseas operations. If you can do a mile in 10 mins, then you are in decent shape, Good enough for basic police work. When I joined the Army decades ago, that was the same requirement. Some did fail and they did not stay in. Not sure now what the requirement is, but would not surprise me if it was still the min.

Army requirements vary by gender, but for men the minimum for ages 22-26 after basic is a 16:36 2 mile time. That's pretty sensible - it's an easily achievable time for any young male and anything worse than that pretty strongly indicates either a disinterest in fitness or just zero physical talent. I can't really think of any good reason that police shouldn't be held to a similar standard.

[Lochton]

don't get me wrong lol, i would never argue with a couple 300 pound cops..that would end badly.

Well, it does put a stronger picture if they can size up to their command. To be honest.

[Ettan]

That a “fit person” can run with no gear or training? You are assuming a lot of these individuals, on both sides.

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And this is why the thread needs to be closed.

A fit person (boy or girl) will be able to complete it in 5.
But everything is relative, I supose that to you americans a "fit person" is just somone of "normal" body shape.

[Spectral]

Great, do tell me you don't work in healthcare, personal relations or other social activity jobs.

I work in a field adjacent to healthcare, but I don't have anything to do with patient care. I would never want to deal with patients and part of why is the dislike I have for people that destroy their bodies and then waste healthcare resources on things that could be remedied by them not behaving badly.

[Jimusmc]

skinny officer doing a foot chace.

if dude kept running he prob got away since he was a bit faster than the cop.