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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3da0643df05c

    Seems ok to me. Sounds kind of funny for a white actor who was born in Wales to be commenting about something like this.
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    I only agree to electing / hiring people of colour, gender, even white people based on merit and qualifications. Not on a quota system

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    USA is inherently multicultural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    It's a meme at this point. Just like "Diversity". The country is quite diverse as people from just about every inch of the globe come here.
    Yeah how was the diversity in the neighborhoods you have moved to over the past five times? It's incredibly interesting that you haven't purchased real estate yet, but I have several properties and a high net worth, I guess I just worked harder and smarter than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    What if a more talented, more educated, more experienced white male applies for a job and someone of color applies for the same job and has none of those traits?

    Black man gets it because of REASONS?
    That doesn't happen. There will always be multiple qualified people for positions, not always the same type of human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    It must be nice being able solve all the worlds problems from that Barista counter.

    I have a serious issue with mandated statistics when hiring just to say "YAY" we are multicultural.

    I hire the most qualified candidate man or woman black or white.

    You are trying to force multiculturalism with some Harvard buzz words you heard on NPR.
    It isn't forced multiculturalism, it's the broadening of qualified hires. You are the one deluded with "buzzwords".

    What line of work do you do that enables you to hire 'only the best'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post

    That doesn't happen. There will always be multiple qualified people for positions, not always the same type of human being.
    What does happen is you sit in a meeting with your Director and HR and they give you your race-gender statistics.
    They do not tell you to your face to hire more ethnic females they casually drop a "we need to work on this" or "here are some places with gaps"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    What does happen is you sit in a meeting with your Director and HR and they give you your race-gender statistics.
    They do not tell you to your face to hire more ethnic females they casually drop a "we need to work on this" or "here are some places with gaps"
    Which is good, it means your Director and HR representative are abreast to the latest studies regarding diversity in business, which shows that diversification in the businesses workforce benefits companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Why did you just quote yourself?
    i meant to add on to what i had written i guess it quoted me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bapestar View Post
    He's right, racists going to hate him for speaking the truth though. As time goes on there will be more and more, brown people holding powerful positions.
    This post is amazing because he has 0 idea that he's being racist while saying the people opposed to Bale's statement are racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    That doesn't happen.
    Okay
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    Never claimed I was a genuis.
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    I don't give a fuck if cops act shitty towards people, never have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    This post is amazing because he has 0 idea that he's being racist while saying the people opposed to Bale's statement are racist.



    Okay
    They were looking for ethnic minorities for a hospital drama situated in a ethnic minority neighborhood. It wasn't even a permanent job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    They were looking for ethnic minorities for a hospital drama situated in a ethnic minority neighborhood. It wasn't even a permanent job.
    Then that same excuse applies to not hiring ethnic minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    They were looking for ethnic minorities for a hospital drama situated in a ethnic minority neighborhood. It wasn't even a permanent job.
    Not even they tried to use that as an excuse:
    'This is a training and development programme designed as a positive action scheme to address an identified under-representation of people from ethnic minority backgrounds in script editing roles at the BBC.'
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    I don't give a fuck if cops act shitty towards people, never have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Then that same excuse applies to not hiring ethnic minorities.
    Not when it's a fictional TV show. Let's continue our conversation as to why you haven't purchased a home yet, shall we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    Not even they tried to use that as an excuse:
    Because it isn't an excuse. Why are you using the temporary employment of supporting cast of a fictional TV show ad evidence of racial discrimination in hiring?

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    Yeah it would be awsome if everything was perfectly equal sunshine and rainbows and all that,but the sad truth is that this just leads to bullshit quotas,people getting picked for a job because of how they were born not because they are more qualified,there are fewer black people/women/latinos etc runing for these things,and its started to become discriminatory against white people in many places,some people have been fired just to make room for ''diversity'',replacing one form of bigotry with another is not the solution,it has to happen naturaly not be forced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Not when it's a fictional TV show. Let's continue our conversation as to why you haven't purchased a home yet, shall we?

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    Because it isn't an excuse. Why are you using the temporary employment of supporting cast of a fictional TV show ad evidence of racial discrimination in hiring?
    Nope you made the rule that you don't have to hire people if they don't match the ethnicity of the neighborhood. So you don't have to hire nonwhites in a white neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Nope you made the rule that you don't have to hire people if they don't match the ethnicity of the neighborhood. So you don't have to hire nonwhites in a white neighborhood.
    For a fictional TV show based upon a hospital in an ethnic minority neighborhood. Can you make that distinction, or were the five neighborhoods you have lived in Jacksonville all ethnic minority populations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    For a fictional TV show based upon a hospital in an ethnic minority neighborhood. Can you make that distinction, or were the five neighborhoods you have lived in Jacksonville all ethnic minority populations?
    It's such a shame that the people who cry about racism and diversity tend to be exceptionally racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    What does happen is you sit in a meeting with your Director and HR and they give you your race-gender statistics.
    They do not tell you to your face to hire more ethnic females they casually drop a "we need to work on this" or "here are some places with gaps"
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Which is good, it means your Director and HR representative are abreast to the latest studies regarding diversity in business, which shows that diversification in the businesses workforce benefits companies.
    It might be good. It depends on what happens next.

    If the follow up conversation is "what can we do to attract more diverse applicants", then it's good. If the follow up conversation is "hire more diverse applicants", then it's bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinra1 View Post
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...0c65287ac6a6b?
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    I personally agree, America needs to elect more women and people of colour into the government and eliminate any radical nationalist sentiment.
    Multiculturalism and nationalism are not necessarily opposed. For example, if a big part of a countries national identity is that it is a melting pot, then a nationalist in that country would push to perpetuate that. The point being that bundling together ethno-nationalists and nationalists is like bundling together communists and socialists. They're similar and are even connected to each other, but they are distinctly different from one another.

    Secondly, policies matter more than someones race or gender. I'm sure you wouldn't be in favor of a surge in black congressional representatives that share the same political opinions as Ben Carson even if that made things in congress more demographically representative of America, now would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    It's such a shame that the people who cry about racism and diversity tend to be exceptionally racist.
    Yeah have two people who lived in ethnically minority neighborhoods as off screen supporting roles in assisting writing the script is totally racist. But let's hear your story why you haven't purchased real estate? Must be your credit, or maybe you are just too hard to nail down and start gaining equity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrlaan View Post
    It might be good. It depends on what happens next.

    If the follow up conversation is "what can we do to attract more diverse applicants", then it's good. If the follow up conversation is "hire more diverse applicants", then it's bad.
    That's exactly what the largest businesses do. They always try to broaden their pool of applicants from around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Which is good, it means your Director and HR representative are abreast to the latest studies regarding diversity in business, which shows that diversification in the businesses workforce benefits companies.
    Those studies are terrible. Have you even thought about the stats they rattle off when claiming that diversity is good for business? They basically looked at overall staff numbers by race, gender, religion, etc., then rated them based on their overall diversity, and then they compared how well more diverse companies are performing compared to less diverse companies irrespective of the performance of those companies before these recent pushes for diversity. If you don't understand how that's faulty then lemme spell it out for you; diversity pushes have been good for PR recently, thus the most successful companies will not only have the best ability to push that for PR due to not pinching their pennies, but those companies will also most likely remain successful in the interim regardless of the impact of diversity (whether it's good, bad, or neutral). Hell, those diversity studies didn't even do something as basic as comparing performance metrics between less diverse and more diverse departments with similar roles within the same company which could actually show a link between diversity and business performance.

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