Why High Elves are no longer needed to, shouldn't, and NEVER will be an allied race

[Florena]

Even before void elves there was never a 'need' for thalnassian elves on the alliance.

[MatadorMedia]

They made a faction of high elves playable, called the blood elves, in BC. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

[Faroth]

Honestly, the Void Elves are blood elf models with night elf skin coloring to me. Visually, it kinda feels like Horde and Alliance both just got more night elves. And with Nightborne and Night Elves being basically different quality models of the same race, I see no reason why high elves wouldn't be a skinning option for an easy (and lazy) allied race in the future.

Am I worked up about getting them? Nah, I don't really care about high elves on the Alliance, but I don't see why any of the OP arguments exclude the option.

Why the Alliance didn't simply get the high elves they've asked for is as strange to me as the Horde still not having ogres.

It would make more sense as a subrace skin option than making a whole new race, though. Maybe the void elves will have some more normal looking skin coloring options at character creation and change in void form. That should make a fair middle ground for players wanting the high elf aesthetic more than looking like a variation of a night elf.

[Sign]

[QUOTE=Anduin Menethil;48546304]And? So are Night Elves. Not all Elves are the same.[/QUOTE

Keep trying and some time soon you will be probably able to get one remotely good argument that is likely to happen.But playable high elves on alliance side not am afraid.Be happy for void that is something closest you will ever get .

[Obelisk Kai]

Honestly, the Void Elves are blood elf models with night elf skin coloring to me. Visually, it kinda feels like Horde and Alliance both just got more night elves. And with Nightborne and Night Elves being basically different quality models of the same race, I see no reason why high elves wouldn't be a skinning option for an easy (and lazy) allied race in the future.

Am I worked up about getting them? Nah, I don't really care about high elves on the Alliance, but I don't see why any of the OP arguments exclude the option.

Why the Alliance didn't simply get the high elves they've asked for is as strange to me as the Horde still not having ogres.

Why is it strange? The answer is repeated time and time again.

Blood Elves are a Horde race. Blood Elves are High Elves.

The Horde's right for their faction to remain distinctive trumps the faded nostalgia of a tiny group of players who have never reconciled themselves to the truth that the race they want to play is on the Horde.

And Void Elves are Blizzard's attempt at meeting them halfway. The model without the theme or aesthetic.

That is a crucial distinction.

It would make more sense as a subrace skin option than making a whole new race, though. Maybe the void elves will have some more normal looking skin coloring options at character creation and change in void form. That should make a fair middle ground for players wanting the high elf aesthetic more than looking like a variation of a night elf.

If players want the High Elf aesthetic that badly, they are welcome to roll a Blood Elf.

They don't get to be a pretend High Elf. Void Elves are not High Elves. They used to be, but they've put that behind them.

[Faroth]

Why is it strange? The answer is repeated time and time again.

Blood Elves are a Horde race. Blood Elves are High Elves.

The Horde's right for their faction to remain distinctive trumps the faded nostalgia of a tiny group of players who have never reconciled themselves to the truth that the race they want to play is on the Horde.

And Void Elves are Blizzard's attempt at meeting them halfway. The model without the theme or aesthetic.

That is a crucial distinction.



If players want the High Elf aesthetic that badly, they are welcome to roll a Blood Elf.

They don't get to be a pretend High Elf. Void Elves are not High Elves. They used to be, but they've put that behind them.

Night elves are an Alliance race. Nightborn are Night elves.

The Alliance's right for their faction to remain distinctive........... apparently means jack all as the the Horde get said Alliance race?

If players want a night elf aesthetic so badly, they are welcome to, oh apparently keep playing the Horde if they wish.


That argument is completely hollow with the Horde essentially getting a version of night elves on their faction now.

[Austilias]

It would make more sense as a subrace skin option than making a whole new race, though. Maybe the void elves will have some more normal looking skin coloring options at character creation and change in void form. That should make a fair middle ground for players wanting the high elf aesthetic more than looking like a variation of a night elf.

It wouldn't be the first time they accommodated those who don't want to look how something necessarily should look.

See: The normal skin/customizations they added to all Death Knight races, alongside the undead options. The only unavoidable thing is their blue eyes.

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Night elves are an Alliance race. Nightborn are Night elves.

The Alliance's right for their faction to remain distinctive........... apparently means jack all as the the Horde get said Alliance race?

If players want a night elf aesthetic so badly, they are welcome to, oh apparently keep playing the Horde if they wish.


That argument is completely hollow with the Horde essentially getting a version of night elves on their faction now.

The Nightborne look different from Night Elves, with darker skin tones and very bright tattoos. Just like the Void Elves differ from a Blood Elves by a more "dishevelled" look and darker skin.

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[QUOTE=Sign;48546487]

And? So are Night Elves. Not all Elves are the same.[/QUOTE

Keep trying and some time soon you will be probably able to get one remotely good argument that is likely to happen.But playable high elves on alliance side not am afraid.Be happy for void that is something closest you will ever get .

Yeah High Elves will never happen. Just like Pandaren and Demon Hunters.

[lordsesho]

Yeah High Elves will never happen. Just like Pandaren and Demon Hunters.

no, youre wrong they are already in game, but in the opposite faction, get over it.

[Austilias]

no, youre wrong they are already in game, but in the opposite faction, get over it.

Just like a Frenchman and a German are both identical because they happen to be Human

[Oneirophobia]

High Elves aren't plausible yet Void Elves are? They wouldn't want to upset their favored Horde!

Humans with brown eyes and humans with blue eyes aren’t two separate races, why would elves be? The difference between belf and helf is political and the later of which has maybe 50 to 100 individuals in it.

[lordsesho]

Just like a Frenchman and a German are both identical because they happen to be Human

they changed their name to blood elf after scourge attacked Quel'Thalas, before using fel magic.

[Deleted]

no, youre wrong they are already in game, but in the opposite faction, get over it.

If Blood Elves are the same as High Elves, why did they add Void Elves to begin with? You have no argument.

[lordsesho]

If Blood Elves are the same as High Elves, why did they add Void Elves to begin with? You have no argument.

cuz void elves are now a new flavor of elf?

[Shibito]

Night elves are an Alliance race. Nightborn are Night elves.

The Alliance's right for their faction to remain distinctive........... apparently means jack all as the the Horde get said Alliance race?

If players want a night elf aesthetic so badly, they are welcome to, oh apparently keep playing the Horde if they wish.


That argument is completely hollow with the Horde essentially getting a version of night elves on their faction now.

Except nightborne dont look like night elves at all, but void elves are carbon copies of blood elves.

[Deleted]

cuz void elves are now a new flavor of elf?

So are High Elves. Stop already.

[Obelisk Kai]

Night elves are an Alliance race. Nightborn are Night elves.

The Alliance's right for their faction to remain distinctive........... apparently means jack all as the the Horde get said Alliance race?

If players want a night elf aesthetic so badly, they are welcome to, oh apparently keep playing the Horde if they wish.


That argument is completely hollow with the Horde essentially getting a version of night elves on their faction now.

The difference is the Horde didn't ask for Nightborne. They were not wanted. The Horde weren't the ones seeking to break faction integrity in the unstoppable pursuit of playable High Elves.

Nor are Horde players or posters trying to shift Nightborne closer to Night Elves, which is what some of those seeking to alter Void Elves are attempting to do with by looking to shift it closer to Blood Elves.

Besides, the Nightborne are very thematically distinct from Night Elves. Night Elves are based on Wood Elves. Nightborne seem to be a take on Dark Elves.

The Nightborne are also physically distinct.

Void Elves should be as equally distinct from their parent race.

And High Elves should not be playable on the Alliance faction because there is no way to differentiate them either physically or thematically from Blood Elves.

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If Blood Elves are the same as High Elves, why did they add Void Elves to begin with? You have no argument.

High Elves being the same as Blood Elves is precisely why they came up with Void Elves. I've lost sight of the point you are trying to make here.

[Sigxy]

Besides, the Nightborne are very thematically distinct from Night Elves. Night Elves are based on Wood Elves. Nightborne seem to be a take on Dark Elves.

The Nightborne are also physically distinct.

Void Elves should be as equally distinct from their parent race.

Yeah, at the moment when you look at the differences between Night Elves and Nightborne: You can see they are different enough. Sure they look kinda similar, but they look different enough.

Which I wish was the case for Void Elves since right now, they are just Blood Elves with a different skin-colour. Would've been much nicer if they could've been mutated a bit more rather than just having tentacles for hair.

[lordsesho]

So are High Elves. Stop already.

Here, read this.

And High Elves should not be playable on the Alliance faction because there is no way to differentiate them either physically or thematically from Blood Elves.

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High Elves being the same as Blood Elves is precisely why they came up with Void Elves. I've lost sight of the point you are trying to make here.