How big of a threat is Rob Pardos new MMO to vanilla?

[Deleted]

My first reaction is who is Rob Pardos?

Why would this threaten vanilla? Vanilla has been gone for 13 years so they are at least that late to the game. If you mean classic? No idea we still have no idea was a classic wow server entails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pardo

And considering his new venture hasn't even been announced and we don't even know if it's an MMO.
I'd have to go with "zero".

[Chakah]

Link please?

No threat at all.

Bonfire Studios plans to spend much of 2018 prototyping ideas for PC and mobile online multiplayer games before choosing its first project

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...018-and-beyond

[Projectmars]

Everyone has there own opinion on this, but I feel it will have to be something special to knock World of Warcraft off top spot. Starwars, DC Universe, Final Fantasy XIV, Rift and Wildstar have all tried and failed. WoW has never had any strong competition to knock it off the top spot, WoW will still be around for years because there is nothing out there to compare it to... I've played most of the MMO's i've listed so this is just my opinion on my experience playing them.

I do hope something new does come out and challenge WoW, but as I said, it will take something special to do it.

Lets be honest though: FF14 is probably the one MMO out of those that could be considered Second Place, so it certainly hasn't really failed. Well, besides 1.0. But it got better.

[Sliske]

I played Wildstar on launch and thought it was boring as fuck, bland in so many ways. How you can rag on Vanilla fanboys and then say WildStar was fun as fuck is crazy, because Wildstar was just a bad attempt to cash in on that Vanilla/TBC nostalgia gaming.

im not ragging on vanilla fanboys, unless fanboy is an inherently a bad thing to you. I'm a wow fanboy 100%. I know i'll get the next expansion no matter what happens. I will play and look forward to vanilla. The thing i was pointing out is that the vanilla fanboys are massive in numbers and extremely dedicated to vanilla. There isn't a hope in hell that any other mmo will make them swap to it over vanilla.

There are certain fanbases like witcher 3 (im part of this one) or half life 2 that insist and will refuse to admit any other game of the same genre is better. I will probably never encounter an RPG thats better than witcher 3 for example. Vanilla has a fanbase like this and its huge.

[Bigbazz]

im not ragging on vanilla fanboys, unless fanboy is an inherently a bad thing to you. I'm a wow fanboy 100%. I know i'll get the next expansion no matter what happens. I will play and look forward to vanilla. The thing i was pointing out is that the vanilla fanboys are massive in numbers and extremely dedicated to vanilla. There isn't a hope in hell that any other mmo will make them swap to it over vanilla.

There are certain fanbases like witcher 3 (im part of this one) or half life 2 that insist and will refuse to admit any other game of the same genre is better. I will probably never encounter an RPG thats better than witcher 3 for example. Vanilla has a fanbase like this and its huge.

"Fanboy" is a derogatory term used on the internet so of course it's considered a bad thing, a fan is another matter. It's ok to call yourself a fanboy, but your tone/demeanor in coversation doesn't come across in text, if you talk about fans as fanboys you come across as if you're intending to flame/disrespect fans of the game as well as giving the impression you're sitting on the opposite side of the fence.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

The way i see it, the key to success of vanilla is that it will have an in game community. The problem is that rob pardo is dedicated to releasing his own mmo type game with a strong focus on an in game community. Myself, i consider legion to be the “end” of wow and im planning on switching to pardos mmo. Vanilla is just there as a backup in case pardos effort sucks (and i dont think it will). In short, vanilla is coming too late. Im already moving on. Thoughts?

Considering Vanilla will likely be out long before whatever Pardo decides to release...I think the threat is pretty limited.

[Nomads]

I'm generally skeptical of any new MMO... I've enjoyed a few of them. Wildstar and Guild Wars 2 were pretty fun... for a time. Their main problem are that they launch before being ready and then don't have the funding to provide enough new content to keep players satisfied.

If it is a promising project, I will probably check it out... I still occasionally play SWTOR when I need a SW fix.

[hulkgor]

Jumping the gun a little 'eh?

They aren't anywhere near to releasing, hell, even announcing their first project.

Silly thread.

[Mormolyce]

First hit on Google: "Rob Pardo: Developers 'avoiding the term MMO'".

http://www.develop-online.net/interv...rm-mmo/0209585

I mean, obviously the answer is no. But from the sounds of it, it won't even be a traditional MMO.

[ls-]

Ain't Rob Pardo the moron who got banned from his own game forum and then fired from his own company?

Nah, that's one and only Mark Kern

[Nomads]

First hit on Google: "Rob Pardo: Developers 'avoiding the term MMO'".

http://www.develop-online.net/interv...rm-mmo/0209585

I mean, obviously the answer is no. But from the sounds of it, it won't even be a traditional MMO.

Did you even read that article. (From 2015) It was all about how developers are avoiding the term MMO because they are scared of competing with WoW and the comparisons player will make to it.

Lol nowhere does it say it won't be an MMO.

[iamthedevil]

People are confusing MMO with MMORPG.

[Mormolyce]

Did you even read that article. (From 2015) It was all about how developers are avoiding the term MMO because they are scared of competing with WoW and the comparisons player will make to it.

Lol nowhere does it say it won't be an MMO.

I said traditional MMO. And that was the point I was making yes.

[Dalheim]

Nah, that's one and only Mark Kern

Aaah, right. Thanks for clearing it up. :>

[Scythist]

Absolutely none.

[Chaelexi]

The way i see it, the key to success of vanilla is that it will have an in game community. The problem is that rob pardo is dedicated to releasing his own mmo type game with a strong focus on an in game community. Myself, i consider legion to be the “end” of wow and im planning on switching to pardos mmo. Vanilla is just there as a backup in case pardos effort sucks (and i dont think it will). In short, vanilla is coming too late. Im already moving on. Thoughts?

It is funny, do you know how many "WoW" Killers have been said that this will kill WoW and none have so why start a thread on that premise......that is great you are switching.....no one cares there will be someone else to take your place.

[Trollhammer]

It is funny, do you know how many "WoW" Killers have been said that this will kill WoW and none have so why start a thread on that premise......that is great you are switching.....no one cares there will be someone else to take your place.

Star Wars The Old Republic
RIFT
Guild Wars 2
TERA
FFXIV
The Secret World
Black Desert
Blade and Soul
Archeage
Age of Conan
Warhammer Online
TESO
Wildstar

Probably missing a few Kappa

[Video Games]

No threat at all.


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...018-and-beyond

Lol mobile fuckin icky get it out of here. Already rip

[Mirishka]

The way i see it, the key to success of vanilla is that it will have an in game community. The problem is that rob pardo is dedicated to releasing his own mmo type game with a strong focus on an in game community. Myself, i consider legion to be the “end” of wow and im planning on switching to pardos mmo. Vanilla is just there as a backup in case pardos effort sucks (and i dont think it will). In short, vanilla is coming too late. Im already moving on. Thoughts?

Sorry to be that person but lol@people who think any MMO at this point is a threat to WoW.

Especially once they release classic, which will probably be a built-in server option. Rob Pardo can release all the MMOs he wants, he isn't 'dethroning' anything.

[PuppetShowJustice]

New MMOs don't really threaten older ones directly. The notion that they do mostly comes from fanboy arguments and clickbait game journalism articles.

When older MMOs fizzle out its usually due to poor decisions by the dev team or parent company -- not genre competition. When new MMOs fizzle out it's usually because they failed to attract an audience, suffer from technical problems (usually a contributing factor in the first issue), or simply can't produce content at an acceptable pace to maintain interest.