Attack on undercity plot hole.

[Combatbutler]

You cannot disrupt a ship that can fly across the world in an instant, has enough shields to stop legion batteries, and can punch a hole through a 10 meter wall.

Yes you can, a more powerful vessel was shot down with a single shot after all.

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It is possible that their close and old ally, the Kingdom of Ironforge (which i expect to be quite rich and wealthy), helped them get over the crisis by loaning them money.

To be honest I seriously doubt it, since the council took over they could hardly reach a consensus and Varian had tried to kill Moira just a bit prior.

[S R]

Are you sure you watched the correct cinematic? After Sylvannas screams For the Horde! you can clearly see a Highmountain Tauren wrecking Alliance dogs.

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Most likely crashed, at some point.

Yeah it's gonna be right next to Exodar.
In another 10, draenei will build a third space ship out of nowhere and finally fly off.

[Combatbutler]

Are you sure you watched the correct cinematic? After Sylvannas screams For the Horde! you can clearly see a Highmountain Tauren wrecking Alliance dogs.

That is a normal Tauren, look at the horns.

[Friendlyimmolation]

The Grand Alliance won't have control of the Vindicaar alone. The entire Grand Army of the Light (including the High-Exarch, Turalyon) is joining the High-King in the next expansion, therefore de-jure they would also have control of High-Commander Lothraxion's forces (the Aurobos, a dimensional spaceship that led the powerful Dreadlord Balnazzar to his demise).

The argument 'The Vindicaar is busy defending the Azuremyst Isles' is moot, because, as proven before, the Grand Alliance would also have control of the Aurobos, which is another dimensional spaceship like the Vindicaar, if not even more powerful, as it can warp time and teleport. So they can use the Vindicaar to assault the Undercity and use the Aurobos to protect the Azuremyst Isles, or viceversa.

But we don't need neither the Vindicaar nor the Aurobos to smash the walls of that pitiful ruined city. The sheer awesomeness of Alleria Windrunner will do the job, and even make us look good doing it.



That was only the Kingdom of Stormwind. And it seems Stormwind has recovered from its economical crisis, as it can afford to launch various expeditions to reclaim Gilneas, Stromgarde, Kul'tiras and Lordaeron.

Hahahahaha.....



Also you'll have to wait for before the storm to say that Stormwind is doing well economically.

[Stormspark]

You might want to look up the definition of "plot hole". That term is misused almost as much as Mary Sue.

[cparle87]

Because it's a horde squatting ground you mean. It's an alliance capital

It's been a Horde capitol for more years than it was an Alliance one.

[Aucald]

You might want to look up the definition of "plot hole". That term is misused almost as much as Mary Sue.

Well it is a plot hole in that sense that it's a part of a gaping chasm between plot points A and Z. Much of that span is likely going to be filled by the novel "Before the Storm," and after that we'll know more clearly what is or isn't a "plot hole" as concerns BfA.

[Dundebuns]

Likely still in the Nether hunting down demons and stopping a demon lord from rallying the Legion. Sargeras might be gone, but there will be pockets of demons left.

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It will probably be grounded due to sabotage or some other reason.

[Valandale]

Everything pre-The Frozen Throne would say the opposite. Lordaeron City was the "Alliance" capitol from Warcraft 2 until the end of Reign of Chaos.

[delus]

Who wants to guess what is the reason the Alliance does not simply use the Vindicar to demolish the walls? I am interested.

Because they want to capture it, not level it.

[omeomorfismo]

The biggest plot hole is how the hell does the Alliance afford all this? The war against the Lich King left them near-pennyless and they haven’t stopped fighting since!

didnt you play cata? they send poors in andhoral to die!
only riches survived

[Bigby]

It's the same excuse why the Gnomes don't use their Orbital Cannon.

It's, uh... um, hmm... I...

Same reason the alliance hasnt been destroyed since the forsaken got his hands in putress plague, plot

The Blight is way, way overstated in it's effectiveness by the fandom. It's just glorified artillery. That's it. There's really nothing special about it beyond being decent if you want to pull a scorched earth tactic... which nobody really seems to, since it even screws over the Forsaken's gains (Southshore). There's no real reason for the Forsaken to use it other than it presumably being easier to produce than conventional explosives/shot, which means nothing when WoW's writing cares nothing about logistics or consistency (Stormwind's bankruptcy being dropped as quickly as the next expansion).

[yetgdhfgh]

The whole attack is a massive plot hole

Firstly the Horde would see the Alliance build up a mile away after all the thandol span is the only land bridge to the UC

Secondly the Horde would need to get there en masse to repel the attack that would mean prior knowledge and a chance to bolster defenses.

Then you have the fact why didn't the Forsaken nuke the alliance build up with plague?

Unless you can wish that shit away with a mage did it with portals and if that is the case then the lore can just go fuck itself right now!

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The biggest plot hole is why Horde NEVER USE the main cannon of their Zeppelin (the big wolf head), it cuold probably open a hole even in Deathwing belly (yeah the recoil wuold probably demolish the zeppelin too but it wuold be worth XD).

[GreenJesus]

The biggest plothole is why Sylvanas doesn't use the plague or her other methods to prevent the alliance from even reaching the undercity.

[Vynny]

Who wants to guess what is the reason the Alliance does not simply use the Vindicar to demolish the walls? I am interested.

The same reason that the USA doesn't just nuke every enemy stronghold that we wanna take down. It makes the point indefensible and leads to needless escalation.

Also, plague . . . lots of plague. Yeah, turns out that laser beams and bio weapons don't mix very well, and I imagine that they wanna actually reclaim the throne of lordaeron for the Alliance rather than just blow the whole place to the 3rd circle of hell and back.

[Kynario]

No shit, Sherlock. But they could've opted for like Silvermoon.

They can’t attack Silvermoon, because it’s not even located on Azeroth, but on the instanced Outland map.

[Mehrunes]

Want to hear even a bigger plot hole? how the hell Horde have the man power to fight Alliance at this point? let see

Orc almost extinct and they are rebuilding
Taurens almost extinct and rebuilding
Troll almost extinct
Undead-almost extinct
Goblins-almost extinct

did i miss something? except Blood Elf all Horde race are in a rebuilding process, what did i miss? Did Alliance lose so so much compare with the Horde against Legion?

Orcs from internment camps alone were populous enough that Blackmoore planned to use them to overthrow the Alliance leadership. In one of the alternate timelines where he stopped drinking he achieved just that. On top of that the New Horde also gained Frostwolves and the big Warsong Clan that were never imprisoned. A minority of Orcs sided with Garrosh in the end and those that did were mostly from Orcs that joined even later, Mag'har, Blackrock and Dragonmaw. Orcs population has always been massive.

The only Tauren that were near extinct were Cairne's tribe.

Nothing has been mentioned in regards to Goblins being almost extinct.

Forsaken started as a half of Scourge forces of Lordaeron. Which at the time consisted of almost the entire population of the largest human kingdom, parts of populations of Dalaran, Stromgarde, Alterac and Gilneas, some Dwarves and 90% of the High Elves. Given how the Forsaken were an equal partner in an Alliance of convenience to the Horde predominated by the aforementioned populous Orcs on top of that, they were also massive. And since Cata they resurrected dead from old graves en masse.

The only near extinct race on the Horde are the Darkspear Trolls (with Pandaren also being small in numbers).

As opposed to Gnomes, who nuked away 80% of their population and Draenei who lost most of their population to Orcs after being hunted like animals for 25k years by the Legion.