Fallen Lordaeron and Calia

[Magnagarde]

Lordaeron is WoW's Jerusalem. Nobody needs it, but everyone is fighting over it.

[Shampro]

Lol if any member of the forsaken who would resent anything related to Arthas learns of her whereabouts ( and or possible intentions) she'd probably need protection 24/7 even to take a dump.

[MrSaggins]

Lordaeron is WoW's Jerusalem. Nobody needs it, but everyone is fighting over it.

That's kind of a cool correlation. One could even compare Undercity to the Temple Mount/Haram esh-Sharif, and Capital City proper to Al-Aqsa Mosque. The Forsaken could demand access beneath it after the Alliance makes it defensible; only they'll be looking for stores of plague instead of the Holy of Holies.

[Leyre]

Hey guys!!! Its the sister of your prince who condemn you all to this torment, lets join her!!!

[MrSaggins]

Hey guys!!! Its the sister of your prince who condemn you all to this torment, lets join her!!!

That's sort of the plot of Game of Thrones.

[Leyre]

In addition to supplies being run up through Iran, the Soviet Union won that battle due to reinforcements from the east - Japan's lack of an offensive against the Soviet Union allowed for a massive influx of troops that tilted the battle in their favor. As for the defeat of Germany, talk about a Pyrrhic victory... we propped-up an Anglophile to buffer Central Europe against the Communists, proceeded to antagonize the same individual over rather reasonable demands, engaged in a war against the same individual and his allies, allied with the Communists to defeat the anti-Capitalist/Communist movement, gave away half of Europe, and spent the next fifty years locked in war after war to defeat the... wait for it... Communists. Now, if that wasn't bad enough, in the names of diversity, tolerance, and multiculturalism, the Occident is dead set on giving away their lands. Talk about a Pyrrhic victory!

P.S. Without the total seizure of the administrative units of the central government and Red Army, the Battle for Moscow was irrelevant to the war; hence, the push into the Volga region. Furthermore, due to size of the campaign and their logistical follies, the entire venture was doomed from the start.

P.P.S. Now, shall we move this conversation to its proper location, i.e. the forum for Off-Topic discussions?

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That's merely speculation on your part.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Calia_Menethil

>In the Legion beta, she would say in N Priest [100] Agent of Aid that she has renounced her claim to the throne of Lordaeron, declaring it a lost kingdom.

>This quest, along with any other mention of Lordaeron from her, has since been removed. As such, it is unknown what her stance on the kingdom is now. However, one of her click-quotes is still "It's just Calia now".

Of course they remove it because they had to keep the kids happy with their illusions that she would one day "reclaim" lordaeron

[Magnagarde]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Calia_Menethil

>In the Legion beta, she would say in N Priest [100] Agent of Aid that she has renounced her claim to the throne of Lordaeron, declaring it a lost kingdom.

>This quest, along with any other mention of Lordaeron from her, has since been removed. As such, it is unknown what her stance on the kingdom is now. However, one of her click-quotes is still "It's just Calia now".

Of course they remove it because they had to keep the kids happy with their illusions that she would one day "reclaim" lordaeron

Blizzard did this on too many occasions to count. They removed parts of the Dalaran scenario when Jaina goes through with the purge, they removed tons of notable characters from the Halls of Valor and so on. Many things didn't make it in the end. This is why I doubt they removed it because someone would be upset.

[Shampro]

The Forsaken don't need it either but it obviously represents and holds strong sentimental value to them, of who they were, it's practically part of their identity, almost as strong as the Sin'dorie.

The night elves Teldrassil isn't even that tied to them as a culture or as part of their life and identity as a people, if anything I consider Ashenvale to be more integral to them , and look at the state it's in since joining the Alliance, but eh, that's an annoyance for another time

[Leyre]

Blizzard did this on too many occasions to count. They removed parts of the Dalaran scenario when Jaina goes through with the purge, they removed tons of notable characters from the Halls of Valor and so on. Many things didn't make it in the end. This is why I doubt they removed it because someone would be upset.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/worl...and-censorship

You were saying?

[Magnagarde]

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/worl...and-censorship

You were saying?

I was saying what you quoted.

If there is something relevant to our posts within that article, please take it out and quote it. I'm not going to read the entire article.

[Aquamonkey]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Calia_Menethil

>In the Legion beta, she would say in N Priest [100] Agent of Aid that she has renounced her claim to the throne of Lordaeron, declaring it a lost kingdom.

>This quest, along with any other mention of Lordaeron from her, has since been removed. As such, it is unknown what her stance on the kingdom is now. However, one of her click-quotes is still "It's just Calia now".

Of course they remove it because they had to keep the kids happy with their illusions that she would one day "reclaim" lordaeron

That quest was just a breadcrumb. It didn't have anything substantive to it.

[Leyre]

I was saying what you quoted.

If there is something relevant to our posts within that article, please take it out and quote it. I'm not going to read the entire article.

The name of the ship was changed because people were "pissed"

[Magnagarde]

The name of the ship was changed because people were "pissed"

Okay, so.. there is supposed to be some relevance to this in regards to Calia and Lordaeron?

[Leyre]

That quest was just a breadcrumb. It didn't have anything substantive to it.

Other than the sister of the prince of the ex-kingdom of lordaeron claiming that she renounced to any attempt at retaking her former home, but sure, whatever

[Magnagarde]

Other than the sister of the prince of the ex-kingdom of lordaeron claiming that she renounced to any attempt at retaking her former home, but sure, whatever

That isn't canon, just like Orgrim's and Daelin's presence aren't canon in the Halls of Valor.

[Leyre]

Okay, so.. there is supposed to be some relevance to this in regards to Calia and Lordaeron?

Are you really this "dumb"???

This is why I doubt they removed it because someone would be upset.

They have removed shit in the past people because people were upset, removing Calia lines about Lordaeron was a preemptive measure to avoid kids crying in the forums

Mod Edit: Don't use giant font sizes in this manner, it is distracting and unnecessary.

[Aquamonkey]

Other than the sister of the prince of the ex-kingdom of lordaeron claiming that she renounced to any attempt at retaking her former home, but sure, whatever

The only thing missing is "Lordaeron is no more." which is such an obvious statement that it's meaningless. Calia still says "It's just Calia now."

The name of the ship was changed because people were "pissed"

Nothing in that article or the tweets suggest Blizzard changed the name because people were pissed. People were pissed because Blizzard changed the name.

[Magnagarde]

Are you really this "dumb"???

This is why I doubt they removed it because someone would be upset.

They have removed shit in the past people because people were upset, removing Calia lines about Lordaeron was a preemptive measure to avoid kids crying in the forums

Mod Edit: Don't use giant font sizes in this manner, it is distracting and unnecessary.

The fact that they removed one thing because some people complained doesn't mean they removed this too because some other people complained. You're drawing senseless parallels.

[MrSaggins]

The fact that they removed one thing because some people complained doesn't mean they removed this too because some other people complained. You're drawing senseless parallels.

Yeah, I'm thinking they're just leaving their options open for future plot development. Where would the Highmountain recruitment quest be today if Spiritwalker Ebonhorn was still Wrathion?