Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[In Ogres We Trust]

Hmm, why tho?

Flavor... the game needs flavor. There's too much homogenization.

[CosmicGuitars]

Flavor... the game needs flavor. There's too much homogenization.

"Flavour" isn't a justification for archaic game design.

[Pigglix]

Paladins and shamans should have stayed faction-specific.

Sure. and warrior class for nelf should be only avaiable for the females and druids only for the male.

Cuz of lore and flavour, right? Like the alpha or beta of wow....

[rcshaggy]

Honestly it's only fair that you need to do the full Nightborne storyline to unlock them, considering the barrier on the Alliance races is still harder, with the rep it requires. Blizz has even stated before that they'll be removing the rep barrier from the Nightborne story, so you won't have to get to Exalted first, before continuing the story. (If that decision actually got put in, I do not know).

Just would be hard for a fresh player to do it...
Sure Suramar has everything there, but will take them a good chunk of time to unlock the requirements for the Allied Race Nightborne...

Also kinda glad they are making their home again in Suramar, and hopefully they could even have other things going on too...

[Seramore]

It's not harsh, it makes complete sense. We're still in Legion, it'd be dumb to not require you to complete the Nightborne questline.

I do think Blizzard needs to re-consider Allied Race requirements post Legion, though. I think it'd be nice to not have to unlock them once the expansion is released.

[Paraka]

How is it petty? I'd want to play a druid, but being stuck with night elves sucks to have a nice looking race outside the forms sucks.

Man, It's going to suck when you get your third Druid Ally race and it turns out to be comparably ugly.

[Collected]

It's not harsh, it makes complete sense. We're still in Legion, it'd be dumb to not require you to complete the Nightborne questline.

I do think Blizzard needs to re-consider Allied Race requirements post Legion, though. I think it'd be nice to not have to unlock them once the expansion is released.

I don't think they'll remove the unlock feature but they may introduce some form of catch up mechanic. Look at WoD flying... you still need to go do all of that stuff and we're almost done with Legion.

[Seramore]

I don't think they'll remove the unlock feature but they may introduce some form of catch up mechanic. Look at WoD flying... you still need to go do all of that stuff and we're almost done with Legion.

We're talking about playable races though, not flying in an old continent. I would hope Blizzard has plans to make it easier if they choose to continue to make them unlockable, but I get what you're saying.

[Makorus]

Using Allied Races to advertise BfA, and then requiring you to grind Legion stuff AFTER the expansion was released, especially Argus stuff, would be a huge blunder.

Like, some people are holding off until Legion is free before buying BfA, and imagine that.

[huth]

Flavor... the game needs flavor. There's too much homogenization.

They removed that particulary flavour because they realised they couldn't make it work without making both classes basically be copies of one another. I.e. homogenise them.

[sylvira]

Didn't they state in Blizzcon that they look at Allied Race classes from the perspective of lore first and faction imbalance after? If so, and from what we've seen of the listed classes for the first set of allied races, I hope they keep it that way.

But it also makes me hope they'll go back at their word of not looking at our current races to open them some classes too, still would like to see Paladins given to Night elves as one of the examples.

[Makorus]

Didn't they state in Blizzcon that they look at Allied Race classes from the perspective of lore first and faction imbalance after? If so, and from what we've seen of the listed classes for the first set of allied races, I hope they keep it that way.

But it also makes me hope they'll go back at their word of not looking at our current races to open them some classes too, still would like to see Paladins given to Night elves as one of the examples.

I am still really surprised that Night Elf Paladins are not happening in BfA considering all the stuff in Legion.

[Blayze]

Didn't they state in Blizzcon that they look at Allied Race classes from the perspective of lore first and faction imbalance after? If so, and from what we've seen of the listed classes for the first set of allied races, I hope they keep it that way.

But it also makes me hope they'll go back at their word of not looking at our current races to open them some classes too, still would like to see Paladins given to Night elves as one of the examples.

Pretty sure their motto has always been "gameplay first" (for a given value of 'gameplay').
That's why everything in this game is sacrificed on the altar of raiding, because of 'balance.'

[derpkitteh]

Sure. and warrior class for nelf should be only avaiable for the females and druids only for the male.

Cuz of lore and flavour, right? Like the alpha or beta of wow....

i would do shit like that for lore purposes.

warhammer online was the last game i played with restrictions like that. god i miss that game.

[Swizzington]

Flavor... the game needs flavor. There's too much homogenization.

I agree with you. But locking out a whole class from an entire faction doesn't seem like the right way to go about it. Plenty of other ways we can bring the flavor back!

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Sure. and warrior class for nelf should be only avaiable for the females and druids only for the male.

Cuz of lore and flavour, right? Like the alpha or beta of wow....

I'm okay with that, actually.

[derpkitteh]

I'm okay with that, actually.

i don't think i'd gender restrict, but i would do something similar to what swtor has.

maybe keep horde pally and alliance shaman, but have each class changed aesthetically and somewhat functionally to represent the races being them.

a night elf priest using silvery light, tauren priest and paladin using a more fiery version of the light. blades in paladin stuff, maybe with a slightly more orange tone, for blood elves. shit like that.

[Valysar]

New week ahead, new hopes !

[Swizzington]

i don't think i'd gender restrict, but i would do something similar to what swtor has.

maybe keep horde pally and alliance shaman, but have each class changed aesthetically and somewhat functionally to represent the races being them.

a night elf priest using silvery light, tauren priest and paladin using a more fiery version of the light. blades in paladin stuff, maybe with a slightly more orange tone, for blood elves. shit like that.

What if all my friends are horde and I want to play a Paladin?

[derpkitteh]

What if all my friends are horde and I want to play a Paladin?

then you play a blood elf.

tauren are sunwalkers, not paladins. shoehorning them into the order hall was cringeworthy.

[Swizzington]

then you play a blood elf.

tauren are sunwalkers, not paladins. shoehorning them into the order hall was cringeworthy.

Oh I misread what you said. Sorry. Yeah what you said is actually a good idea.