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    Isn't the entire point of Tips to make up a "living wage", but if the Minimum wage has been brought up to that standard then Tips are irrelevant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Isn't the entire point of Tips to make up a "living wage", but if the Minimum wage has been brought up to that standard then Tips are irrelevant?
    Tim's isn't officially a "tip" job. You make maybe 8-10$ of tip on an 8 hours shift, not 50-100+ like actual waiters who's salaries are balanced around that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrieverXIII View Post
    Tim's isn't officially a "tip" job. You make maybe 8-10$ of tip on an 8 hours shift, not 50-100+ like actual waiters who's salaries are balanced around that fact.
    Which makes the outrage seem even more idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Tim Hortons are the problem. i mean, its fine you don't care, but that won't change my opinion.
    Okay... but you're wrong Tim Hortons is most certainly not the problem (this is coming from a Canadian IN Ontario who understands inflation and how the extra bit of money is taxed and taxed again when spent as well as how a slower min. wage increase over 5 years and then all wages being tied to annual inflation was the correct fix...)

    Also please know that this wage increase will cause loss of jobs and we will see costs outpace the increase shortly as a eg. $100 weekly increase in business costs / wages per person really translates to about $65 to the employee while still costing the business $100. This is because the $100 is taxed and then you are taxed when you buy stuff with it. Sucks when the total costs of everything you normally buy / use on a weekly basis increases by the $100 though...

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    Just get different job. Don't buy there either Tim Hortons is worth pice of shit among all the chain fast foods. If it goes bankrupt everybody will be better for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Which makes the outrage seem even more idiotic.
    Well when you work minimum wage everything counts, trust me on that one. Been on my own since i'm 17, i had to do these jobs at the beginning to survive too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrieverXIII View Post
    Well when you work minimum wage everything counts, trust me on that one. Been on my own since i'm 17, i had to do these jobs at the beginning to survive too.
    As someone who started his Chef apprenticeship at 17 and was paid less than $12 an hour in Australia for 3 years and watched useless waitresses get tipped for carrying food I cooked 10 meters from the Kitchen to a Table, you can bet your ass I give zero shits about their useless fucking whinging.

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    Why don't they get a real job? What loser actually tries to live off a fast food job?

    Fast food work is for retired tradesmen that want easy extra income or kids that need to build up their resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    As someone who started his Chef apprenticeship at 17 and was paid less than $12 an hour in Australia for 3 years and watched useless waitresses get tipped for carrying food I cooked 10 meters from the Kitchen to a Table, you can bet your ass I give zero shits about their useless fucking whinging.
    Kind of irrelevant if you were still at home then but hey, if you don't care, find another thread to be passive-aggressive in then.

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    good. i want automation to take every single bluecollar job there is.

    then, we get to live off of universal income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Ye, by working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, because that will happen without min. wage and no strong unions.
    How the hell can you be so naive about what humans are capable off? Go read up about the industrial revolution in Europe.. or about the VoC.
    thats fine. if they agree to due that job, for that pay, with those hours, its their own problem. its not exploitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrieverXIII View Post
    Kind of irrelevant if you were still at home then but hey, if you don't care, find another thread to be passive-aggressive in then.
    I wasn't at home then. I was kicked out of home and had to make ends meet on an apprentice Chef wage, which first year at 17 was $6.05. Like I said, zero fucks given about Waiters. Literally have more respect for Frycooks at McDonalds than Waiters anywhere. It's a literal Monkeys Job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    Why don't they get a real job? What loser actually tries to live off a fast food job?
    Hey another kid thinking everyone lives in the same situation as he does. Nobody wants to "live" off these jobs, sadly school doesn't exactly pay for rent or food and not everyone's parents were even meant for parenthood in the first place. What do you do when you're forced to take care of yourself before you're even given the chance to earn the papers to allow you to do an oh-so-important desk job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewdest View Post
    Why don't they get a real job? What loser actually tries to live off a fast food job?

    Fast food work is for retired tradesmen that want easy extra income or kids that need to build up their resume.
    lazy and complacent people. i mean these days, they know they will keep getting handouts afterall

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrieverXIII View Post
    Hey another kid thinking everyone lives in the same situation as he does. Nobody wants to "live" off these jobs, sadly school doesn't exactly pay for rent or food and not everyone's parents were even meant for parenthood in the first place. What do you do when you're forced to take care of yourself before you're even given the chance to earn the papers to allow you to do an oh-so-important desk job?
    you start there then move somewhere else. you live with roommates and in a cheaper city. plenty of entry level jobs pay WAY above min wage requiring no exp and no schooling. only the truly lazy and complacent stay at min wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I wasn't at home then. I was kicked out of home and had to make ends meet on an apprentice Chef wage, which first year at 17 was $6.05. Like I said, zero fucks given about Waiters. Literally have more respect for Frycooks at McDonalds than Waiters anywhere. It's a literal Monkeys Job.
    Well then i don't get your point, Tim Horton's is fast food, similar to Mcdonalds. It doesn't have waiters. People give meager tip out of courtesy but its not initially intended. The "outrage" is mostly about how it makes the owners of these restaurants look like cheapskates to hold whatever little extra they get while stuck on min-wage just because the government changed it to something more livable in that province (the rents in Toronto and its nearby areas are ridiculously high).

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    good. i want automation to take every single bluecollar job there is.

    then, we get to live off of universal income.
    Me too. Star Trek Utopia here we come!

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Greathoudini View Post
    Reasons including race? My, wonder what people of colour would say if a white were to do this. Which they don't. Because their business would burn if they were to do so today.
    were the words any reason not clear enough? the govt should not be dictating to business' how they need to do their business.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Hope Canadians boycott, Tim Horton's is crap fast food anyways. Yes I said it Canada, your revered chain is garbage. You can do better.
    thats great, thank you for stereotyping canadians. thats like me saying all americans are obese and love dunkin donuts....

    99% of canadians aren't mad at TH. they are mad at Ontario for raising the minimum wage $2.5 more an hour and expecting nothing to change...

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnige View Post
    thats great, thank you for stereotyping canadians. thats like me saying all americans are obese and love dunkin donuts....

    99% of canadians aren't mad at TH. they are mad at Ontario for raising the minimum wage $2.5 more an hour and expecting nothing to change...
    how else would fast food workers get new cars, iphones, high speed internet, eat out 3 times a week and a new pair of yeezy's. they gotta live dude! ROFL

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    lazy and complacent people. i mean these days, they know they will keep getting handouts afterall

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    you start there then move somewhere else. you live with roommates and in a cheaper city. plenty of entry level jobs pay WAY above min wage requiring no exp and no schooling. only the truly lazy and complacent stay at min wage.
    Depends where you live, in my case i was lucky to be able to do basically what you just said, living both in a cheap city (because nobody in North America wants to learn french, i live in Quebec city) and in an industrial area, so now i work in a warehouse while taking online University classes).

    But its not the same for everyone.

    Besides, honestly i don't really see why people attach such a huge "laziness" stigma on these jobs. Sure there's bad apples there (just like anywhere else really) but for having done a few type of gigs, i don't see how these jobs are really any easier than most Warehouse/Shop/Security Guard/Snow Plowing etc. Manual jobs basically. You're still up for 8 hours, have to serve people under strict time limits and overall deal with a lot of stress. Yet a lot of the other jobs i mentioned can go up to 20$ an hour.

    Some people just gotta feed their superiority complex i guess.

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