Demons without Sargeras - Still a massive threat

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So yeah, we infiltrated their home world and imprisoned their leader.

The same thing happened with the Scourge, with Scourge armies still being numerous enough to sweep Accross Azeroth.

That said, Illidan did not do a Bolvar and did not become leader of all demons, so I assume they would still continue to be a threat to us, after all the Titans were not able to completely rid the galaxy of them, how could we?

By their accounts, they still control most of the galaxy, having burned or infested countless worlds.

Are we to expect more legion invasions, or do you think they are gone for good?

[Farrarie]

Sargeras is still alive maybe he learned something about azeroth when the war of the ancient that we all dont know
and will convince the titan and illidan to join him

[Arrashi]

They were no threat WITH sargeras, so without him they will be reduced to some yelling retard calling us mortals only to die 5 seconds after entering azeroth. Oh wait, that's what they were WITH him. So now i guess they will be comedic relief characters.

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They were no threat WITH sargeras, so without him they will be reduced to some yelling retard calling us mortals only to die 5 seconds after entering azeroth. Oh wait, that's what they were WITH him. So now i guess they will be comedic relief characters.

Considering most undead were not even able to speak and are still considered to be devastating to azeroth if unleashed, it seems we did not actually get the full brunt of neither the scourge or the Legion.

[A Chozo]

I think their main goal will be to free Lord Sargeras.

So that's the Titan's problem. Some demons will obviously try to do evil, harvest souls or whatever demons do for more power - those are as dangerous as mortal warlocks. Dealt with with swords and mind blasts.

[Varodoc]

Obviously, Demons are still a thorn in the Cosmos' side (they have always been, even before Sargeras went rogue). But for the moment the Legion is in disarray. There may still be powerful Demons like Tichondrius, Mannoroth, Mephistroth, Mal'ganis or Jaraxxus who may attempt to take control of the Legion's remnants, but:

A) They are either reforming in the Twisting Nether or MIA

B) They might fight amongst each other to become the true master of the Legion (after all, even Kil'jaeden planned to dethrone Sargeras in TBC and become the sole master of the Legion, there was never true unity)

Demons will still infest thousands of worlds, but they will no longer pose a real threat to Azeroth, since their leadership has been severly crippled by the loss of Sargeras, Kil'jaeden, Archimonde, Tichondrius, the Antoran High-Command, etc... and obviously the Burning Crusade has ended, so they have suffered a crushing and humiliating defeat in the war they started against all life in the Cosmos. In fact, it seems that Blizzard is planning to have the Void Lords as the next major villain, with the introduction of Void Elves who are quite similiar to the Illidari, and obviously all the lore development they have given to Alleria and the Ethereals.

[Arrashi]

Considering most undead were not even able to speak and are still considered to be devastating to azeroth if unleashed, it seems we did not actually get the full brunt of neither the scourge or the Legion.

"Considered" is a key word.

[Rumred]

The problem the demons now have is their leadership is all gone and they are not coming back. Without Argus the titans soul being used to Regen any defeated demon if you kill a Demon it should stay dead twisting nether or not. The only two high ranking leaders that might have been regenerated but still recovering from a recent defeat is Archi and Mannoroth but that is up for debate. It is all possible the high ranking dreadlords are still around. Still the majority of the leadership is gone along with the world soul. My guess is the legion will fragment as different demons and factions lay claim to leadership. So they are no longer a massive threat to us as of now.

Now if one of those i mentioned still lives they could keep the legion intact but still they would need to rebuild their leadership and change their tactics. Just throwing waves of demons at us knowing they will be reborn is over.

[Biotec]

All the portals to Azeroth are closed, and without their leadership they are just a horde of super destructive failures billions of lightyears away. They needed portals to get to Azeroth to actually wreak havoc, and without their most capable leaders they will likely never be able to pull it off again. Even if they did, they won't be nearly as much of a threat now that basically ever major named demon we've ever fought is dead for good. The only threat is if (when) Sargy breaks out of his time-out chair.

The Legion will likely succumb to infighting until Sargy breaks out or we become Warcraft 40k and decide to just take care of them ourselves.

[Farrarie]

Considering most undead were not even able to speak and are still considered to be devastating to azeroth if unleashed, it seems we did not actually get the full brunt of neither the scourge or the Legion.

don't take him seriously the lore is different than the game
in the lore demons conquered countless of worlds even before the burning legion
so yes they are a threat

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All the portals to Azeroth are closed, and without their leadership they are just a horde of super destructive failures billions of lightyears away. They needed portals to get to Azeroth to actually wreak havoc, and without their most capable leaders they will likely never be able to pull it off again. Even if they did, they won't be nearly as much of a threat now that basically ever major named demon we've ever fought is dead for good. The only threat is if (when) Sargy breaks out of his time-out chair.

The Legion will likely succumb to infighting until Sargy breaks out or we become Warcraft 40k and decide to just take care of them ourselves.

don't forget that we have some warlocks and some demons who is scatter in Azeroth ofcource they may find a way to summon there comrades

[Arrashi]

don't take him seriously the lore is different than the game
in the lore demons conquered countless of worlds even before the burning legion
so yes they are a threat

Yeah, and given what we saw in invasion points the biggest resistance they encounter in those worlds are squirrels.

[Forgottenone]

They were no threat WITH sargeras, so without him they will be reduced to some yelling retard calling us mortals only to die 5 seconds after entering azeroth. Oh wait, that's what they were WITH him. So now i guess they will be comedic relief characters.

In game what you said is painfully true.

Lore wise/story wise though the demons are still a threat, just like the scourge. Without the Sargeras, without Archimonde, and with Kil'jaeden they aren't nearly as terrifying but we have seen what the lesser ones can do. They still have the ability to infiltrate our ranks, they have the ability to manipulate us, they have the ability to pop in and out of places, they have the ability to still devastate us. They can still corrupt our allies, they can still do a lot. The demons were here well before the existence of Azeroth and before Sargeras took control of them, and they will continue to exist well after the defeat of Sargeras.

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You guys should state whether or not you are talking about the game. As Arrashi said they have shown to be only mediocre in what they can do in-game. However if we look at this from a story point then they are the second biggest threat in existence with the first obviously being the void lords.

[Aucald]

Definitely a threat, yes. Part of the demon's "inability" was based on Sargeras' desire to possess Azeroth's world-soul for himself, limiting their strategy and the danger they could incur. Without his restraints, coupled with their inherent chaotic nature, they could do some serious damage to a world already grievously injured and in the throes of yet another global conflict between its main factions.

[Awfulist]

Haven't read through posts, but I'd assume their threat is about as good as the undead.. Meaning, they're over just ignore it after the xpac ha.

[Cyanu]

my guess is if they could somehow be 'mass teleported' to azeroth they'd be a huge threat but as of now they're scattered, disorganized with no idea of how to reach azeroth so...

[ro9ue]

There must always be a Sargeras...

[Farrarie]

Yeah, and given what we saw in invasion points the biggest resistance they encounter in those worlds are squirrels.

Haha, I totally agree with you in invasion point. while in illidan novel said how some big, strong and advanced are the civilization who lived in planet that was destroyed by the legion. Sadly it was rushed because as you know Argus was a couple of patches and not an expansion.

[Arrashi]

In game what you said is painfully true.

Lore wise/story wise though the demons are still a threat, just like the scourge. Without the Sargeras, without Archimonde, and with Kil'jaeden they aren't nearly as terrifying but we have seen what the lesser ones can do. They still have the ability to infiltrate our ranks, they have the ability to manipulate us, they have the ability to pop in and out of places, they have the ability to still devastate us. They can still corrupt our allies, they can still do a lot. The demons were here well before the existence of Azeroth and before Sargeras took control of them, and they will continue to exist well after the defeat of Sargeras.

The problem is that they lost antorus to 2 ships worth of draenei in lore. They failed operation we saw in order hall campaigns in lore. They failed their initial invasions in lore. They got decimated in tomb of sargeras in lore. Army of light was playing them like fiddle for thousands of years in lore.

They couldnt even capture a goddamn brewery for gods sake. And all of that is in lore.

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Definitely a threat, yes. Part of the demon's "inability" was based on Sargeras' desire to possess Azeroth's world-soul for himself, limiting their strategy and the danger they could incur. Without his restraints, coupled with their inherent chaotic nature, they could do some serious damage to a world already grievously injured and in the throes of yet another global conflict between its main factions.

Since brewery turned to be too much of challenge for them i would like legion to attack some smaller target. Like kiosk with newspapers, or some kaboob hut. But not in rush hours or they will get overwhelmed.

[Deleted]

The ingame nonsense rapes the lore here again. Its just incredibly ridiculuous, that the god damn Burning Legion is absolutely incompetent in defending their own, main key - world. And thats only because players in the engine are unkillable and can't lose. That kind of crap Blizzard throws makes it literally useless to debate this. The same with the Scourge in Wotlk.

Maybe Blizzard should think about creating an RTS Game for the Story and character development. They're obviously to lazy / incompetent / greedy to pull it of properly in WoW. It would still be much better compared to these god awful books their less than mediocre writers throw at us.

[Lyssander]

Considering most undead were not even able to speak and are still considered to be devastating to azeroth if unleashed, it seems we did not actually get the full brunt of neither the scourge or the Legion.

Undead are still considered a threat because: 1) Blizzard insists they are, therefore its canon. 2) some rabid fanboys.

Besides that they are just like any other villain - doomed.