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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Peebuddy View Post
    It's one thing to domesticate an animal for livestock, dogs however were bred for loyalty, obedience, and trust. To betray such an animal which we've bred by throwing them alive into pots of boiling oil seems like an act of betrayal no other. The saying "we don't deserve dogs" holds true if we treat them so poorly.

    It makes me very sad that we can do such horrible things to an animal that holds us in such high regards, we are their world and we'd do such terrible things to them.
    Why stop at dogs?

    We shouldn't be boiling any vertebrate animal alive.

  2. #282
    In most parts of Australia you can eat dog meat, no problem mate, but how you get the dog meat can land you in boiling water. Last time i checked it was a few months ago but the law kind contradicted itself in acquiring the meat. It said that if you want to kill a dog, you must do it humanely, but if you do kill it humanely it can't be to eat it meat, but then it says that you can eat dog meat...

  3. #283
    Absolutely nothing. I'd love to eat god, thereby inheriting all of his powers.
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    I've stopped talking to random women for any kind of reason. If I see one walking into a store before me, I freeze. I won't move until she's fully inside and on her way. I damn sure won't be having sex with any of them anymore. Thank goodness for porn and masturbation.
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  4. #284
    The double moralty in this forum is astonishing lmao.

    Killing a chicken is as bad as killing a dog or an ant, which is basically ending a life because you can.

    Said that, eat dog if you want to, just give it a proper clean death and not a torturous one.

  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Yeah whats wrong with boiling dogs alive? silly silly question.
    What's wrong with boiling lobsters alive?

  6. #286
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    so many memes being posted that it's looking like bodybuilding forums
    You're getting exactly what you deserve.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    A huge part of the dog meat consumed in China comes from stolen dogs.
    That can be applied to any animal, that isn't a dog is bad to eat issue.

    What is exactly wrong with people consuming dog if it's dealt with the same way as other farm animals?

  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    The only reason why people think it's wrong to eat dogs is because they think of dogs as pets.
    Why eat an animal that's hardwired to serve us?

    Seems counterproductive to what we've spent a thousand generations striving towards.

  9. #289
    In short the West is trying to tell the East what they can and can't do and the East just looks at us and thinks F off.
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  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebane View Post
    Why eat an animal that's hardwired to serve us?

    Seems counterproductive to what we've spent a thousand generations striving towards.
    So much this post.

    We've bred dogs as creatures capable of unconditional love and fixation towards their owners. We've made them a social animal, very much unlike a wolf. One attuned to our emotions and desires. I believe we have some responsibility to the species we create. We've bred this one to be our companion and friend.

    To then turn around and reduce them to food animal. It feels like a huge and unnatural betrayal. To murder something made to be your trusting friend for food feels incredibly evil.

  11. #291
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    They evolved alongside us to facilitate human companionship, like horses. They have better uses than food.
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  12. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risale View Post
    In short the West is trying to tell the East what they can and can't do and the East just looks at us and thinks F off.
    Or it has nothing to with any of that for some posters who objectively don't see the point of eating dog.

    My country is famous for eating horse - doesn't mean I have to agree with it based on broad ethnocultural lines.

  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    We've bred dogs as creatures capable of unconditional love and fixation towards their owners. We've made them a social animal, very much unlike a wolf. One attuned to our emotions and desires. I believe we have some responsibility to the species we create. We've bred this one to be our companion and friend.
    i don't know where you guys are getting this from.
    we havent bred dogs to love us unconditionally, or fixate their owners.
    SOME breeds have these traits, but for most part it is something we train and condition the dogs to.
    most working dogs won't have these traits unless they are socialised with humans from pup.

    most dog breeds is going to be uncontrollable and feral-ish in nature if they aren't conditioned or trained by humans. especially working dogs (hunting dogs, herding dogs, terriers etc.).

    Dogs have been bred as, and used as tools for longer than they have been pets.
    loving family dogs is a fairly ''new'' concept, and feral dogs/mutts is very much a reality.

    horses have also been a part of our history and bred to our needs, and are still consumed.
    Cows and oxs have also been a working animal in some parts of the world instead of horses (no more than a few hundred years back).

    There is ''meat-dogs'' in the asian countries, but it's the entire practice behind the production that's unethical, not the actual consumption itself.

    Add the fact that A LOT of farm animals will show the same unconditional love and fixation, if they are kept as pets instead of livestock.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Yeah, it's kind of bad to eat dogs. I think less of any person who does so.
    But you’re fine eating pork? Rather hypocritical don’t you think?

  15. #295
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    Because Dogs have evolved alongside Humans for tens of thousands of years at least.

    Studies show Dogs instinctively know a Human baby cry, and Humans instinctively know the sound of a pup.
    Dogs work worse at tasks when a Human is watching and not instructing than Wolves, but work much better than wolves when instructed.

    Dogs have been a part of humanity for so long, our entire culture raises them above other animals. Dogs are for all intents and purposes, treated as very stupid humans.

    So I find it very worrying people think eating dogs is a good sign, because you're basically eating the most Empathetic animal in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risale View Post
    In short the West is trying to tell the East what they can and can't do and the East just looks at us and thinks F off.
    Then the East should not start crying when we don't fund them with our big fancy western sporting event then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    But you’re fine eating pork? Rather hypocritical don’t you think?
    How so. Pigs have none of the higher traits of dogs.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug View Post
    You'd be surprised lots of videos and accounts from people that raise cows and pigs of how "sentient" they can be but at the end of the day they're still raised to be eaten. In the west our dogs aren't so obviously its a cultural taboo but as far as I know its not like they're plucking these dogs out of peoples homes in these other countries. The dogs are raised specifically to be eaten.
    In some Asian countires there are in fact people stealing pets in order to slaughter them for their meat.

    I can understand eating cat/dog in famine situations but the meat is not tasty according to nearly everyone and they are domesticated species. Their relationship to humans is different from other animals. Especially dogs, who have been our companions for several thousand years (obviously dogs have been more than companion animals). Their intelligence is another reason, I don't like eating pork for that reason although cows aren't quite as dumb as some people make them out to be.

    In any case, any country that permits boiling animals alive for slaughter should be banned. All animals should be given as painless a death as possible and there are several regions in Asia specifically where people believe that increasing the fear response as much as possible before death increases the flavor of the meat. It doesn't. These people are sadistic fucks and governments that support their behavior should be condemned.

    The problem isn't eating them as much as the inhumane conditions they suffer before they die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    In some Asian countires there are in fact people stealing pets in order to slaughter them for their meat.

    I can understand eating cat/dog in famine situations but the meat is not tasty according to nearly everyone and they are domesticated species. Their relationship to humans is different from other animals. Especially dogs, who have been our companions for several thousand years (obviously dogs have been more than companion animals). Their intelligence is another reason, I don't like eating pork for that reason although cows aren't quite as dumb as some people make them out to be.

    In any case, any country that permits boiling animals alive for slaughter should be banned. All animals should be given as painless a death as possible and there are several regions in Asia specifically where people believe that increasing the fear response as much as possible before death increases the flavor of the meat. It doesn't. These people are sadistic fucks and governments that support their behavior should be condemned.

    The problem isn't eating them as much as the inhumane conditions they suffer before they die.
    To make it easier on you for Pork, Pigs are utterlly callous animals and quite happily trample and eat their own if it benefits them.

  18. #298
    There's nothing inherently wrong about eating dog. I would never eat dog, but not every culture sees them as Man's Best Friend.

    What people object to more than anything, is probably the fact that the dogs are put through torture before being eaten based on dumb assumptions.

    But what to expect, they put live ducklings in meat grinders with the feet first.

  19. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    There's nothing inherently wrong about eating dog. I would never eat dog, but not every culture sees them as Man's Best Friend.

    What people object to more than anything, is probably the fact that the dogs are put through torture before being eaten based on dumb assumptions.

    But what to expect, they put live ducklings in meat grinders with the feet first.
    I'll probably be banned for this, but the entire region seems to have an almost sadistic lack of empathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markos82 View Post
    And why do you have the need to label animals like that? As in this animal is ok to eat, this one isnt? Thats what i was asking here? You are not from China so ofc to you the fact that they eat dogs there is repulsive but in China dogs are raised to be used as meat, thats the fact. You look at them as an extension to us as a part of our lives but they are still animals that can be eating. Is it wrong to eat dog, yeah from my standpoint, but not because i look at them as pets or our companions but because here thats a taboo something thats not a part of out culture and they the thing. If i was starving i would eat a dog because survival instincts always win over moral.

    Also pigs are considered to be smarter than dogs, they are capable of solving complex puzzles and can be good pets ( small breeds )

    But people eat horses, and thats not a taboo subject and its common to see horse meat on a menu...
    I don't know where you're from but I've never seen horse meat on a menu and I've been to many restaurants. Actually I'm pretty sure, in the US at least, eating horse is just as bad as eating dog. I've never seen anybody advertise or be proud that they have horse meat or that they eat it. I'm also pretty sure none of the grocery stores in the US sell it. So I don't think it's as common as you think.

    I "labeled" animals the way I did because who has a farm that raises cats and dogs for the sole purpose of eating them? Who has a slaughterhouse where they cut up dogs, cats, or horses and distributes it to grocery stores to be bought or for restaurants to sell? Maybe in some backwater country but I haven't seen or heard anything like that in any civilized country. Then again maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't say it's common because saying it is would mean that lots of other countries do it on a regular basis and they don't.

    My point with pigs is this. Sure they're smart I'll give you that but when have you ever seen a pig rescue someone in danger? When have you seen one in the police force? When have you seen a pig assist someone who is blind or crippled in some way? Chances are you haven't. Now if you want to talk about PYGMY pigs that's a different story. Pygmy pigs I have seen as pets and are probably even used as service animals. This adds to my point of how some animals are just simply not meant for eating. Just because you CAN eat them doesn't mean you should or that it's right. We humans have edible meat too does that make it acceptable to eat humans?

    Sorry but as a human being I have morals and standards and one of them is that some animals are meant for eating and some aren't. If people want to be a savage barbarian and eat anything in their path have at it but don't sit there and tell me there's nothing wrong with it. Also bringing up the survival scenario is a totally different story. You would eat dogs or cats or horses because you HAVE to in order to stay alive. Anyone would.

    Also Is there proof that China eats dog like we eat chicken? I've never heard China actually raising dogs so they could be eaten. Then again like you said I'm not from China so what would I know?
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