Trump Supporter's I got a serious legit question for you.

[szechuan]

i wouldn't vote for those two because they have a zero chance to win.

And as much as republicans displease me, they still are closer to what i value and are a primary party, thus they get the vote.

rofl lol lol

So you're not protesting yet you are, you're being dishonest when you're saying you're against first world government.

[Edge-]

Between a conservative and liberal it's very black and white to me. There is no further complicated needed if the bottom line I would never vote for a liberal still exists.

And people wonder why partisanship is more extreme than ever, and compromise more elusive.

Literally this kind of thinking.

[szechuan]

Between a conservative and liberal it's very black and white to me. There is no further complicated needed if the bottom line I would never vote for a liberal still exists.

And? Your point being? You just stated you would never change even with Facts and Logic proving my points.

[BuckSparkles]

And people wonder why partisanship is more extreme than ever, and compromise more elusive.

Literally this kind of thinking.

Compromise tends to mean liberals getting what they want more than not.

Hence why people like Kaisch were unappealing as well.

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And? Your point being? You just stated you would never change even with Facts and Logic proving my points.

What facts would make me vote for a liberal? Neither you or Edge have given me reason to vote for a liberal.

[szechuan]

What facts would make me vote for a liberal? Neither you or Edge have given me reason to vote for a liberal.

Apparently none because you just stated you won't ever change.

[BuckSparkles]

Apparently none because you just stated you won't ever change.

That's the thing though. Why would I change when liberal values don't match up with mine? Their core beliefs and opinions regarding the country are vastly different.

[Edge-]

Compromise tends to mean liberals getting what they want more than not.

That's literally not the definition of compromise. If that's your definition then the question is why are conservatives so fucking awful at negotiation and compromise?

Hence why people like Kaisch were unappealing as well.

Because he was the only non-extreme right candidate, and the only one that didn't devolve into petty insults? He maintained a strong social conservative stance with a conservative, but realist position on foreign and domestic policy and economics?

[szechuan]

That's the thing though. Why would somebody change when liberal values don't match up with mine? Their core beliefs and opinions regarding the country are vastly different.

That's the thing though. Why would somebody change when Republican values don't match up with mine? Their core beliefs and opinions regarding the country are vastly different

[BuckSparkles]

That's the thing though. Why would somebody change when Republican values don't match up with mine? Their core beliefs and opinions regarding the country are vastly different

Hey I can accept liberals voting for liberals and conservatives voting for conservatives.

The variable I keep in mind each election are the confusing breed of people known as independents. Any liberal who votes my way is bonus points.

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Because he was the only non-extreme right candidate, and the only one that didn't devolve into petty insults? He maintained a strong social conservative stance with a conservative, but realist position on foreign and domestic policy and economics?

Only extreme right-wing candidate was Ted Cruz. I would prefer not have SJW's be replaced by religious right-wing church nuts either. Trump doesn't seem very religious despite his attempts to connect with religious right-wing folks.

[szechuan]

Hey I can accept liberals voting for liberals and conservatives voting for conservatives.

The variable I keep in mind each election are the confusing breed of people known as independents. Any liberal who votes my way is bonus points.

You can accept people voting? No way. How kind of you.

[BuckSparkles]

You can accept people voting? No way. How kind of you.

No I mean I don't make any special effort to convert liberals over.

[Deianeira]

He's surrounded by neocons, honestly feels like an Iran conflict is almost inevitable.

One thing i always wonder is what good could possibly come from a conflict with Iran, and dont tell me we Will be delivering democracy cuz that worked well in Irak. Also if Iran didnt sponsor terror before you can be sure they would do after/during?

[szechuan]

No I mean I don't make any special effort to convert liberals over.

Yes you do.

[Super Kami Dende]

https://twitter.com/KatzOnEarth/stat...56979658870785

Understanding historical context is kinda important before judging the current state of certain countries.

I still don't even know why people are making it a Race thing. There are Shitholes the World over of every Colour. Being Poor or living in a Shithole isn't a Black only thing. I think people saying it's racist are the true racists by basically them saying "Oh it must be because they are Black." not "oh the country is a Shithole because they are poor."

If someone said "hey would you live in Haiti" I'd say no because its a Shithole, because compared to where I live it is 1000x shittier. But I'd also say the same about a Bunch of Eastern European Countries aswell.

[Deletedaccount1]

One thing i always wonder is what good could possibly come from a conflict with Iran, and dont tell me we Will be delivering democracy cuz that worked well in Irak. Also if Iran didnt sponsor terror before you can be sure they would do after/during?

Neocons think (or at least thought 10 years ago) that Iran does actively sponsor terrorism.

[szechuan]

I still don't even know why people are making it a Race thing. There are Shitholes the World over of every Colour. Being Poor or living in a Shithole isn't a Black only thing. I think people saying it's racist are the true racists by basically them saying "Oh it must be because they are Black." not "oh the country is a Shithole because they are poor."

I guess some people just forgot that Trump does in fact cater to Nazi's.

[Super Kami Dende]

So what other reason to say stuff like that, other than make his base happy. Scoring points with the base.

But it was a leaked conversation from a Private meeting? How exactly was it him trying to score points with a base that wasn't meant to even hear the conversation?

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You just explained it, right there. How do you not see that?

Because you aren't actually explaining what inane point you are trying to make?

[Mormolyce]

What I mean is they swear and sometimes say things that don't earn you virtue signalling points on tumblr.

More organic and not clunky like many politicians.

Trump earns a lot of vice signalling points with internet neo Nazis though.

[Super Kami Dende]

I guess some people just forgot that Trump does in fact cater to Nazi's.

I guess by that logic Democrats must cater exclusively to idiots.

[Edge-]

Because you aren't actually explaining what inane point you are trying to make?

By calling it a shithole, you're "virtue signaling" to all other people who would similarly call exploited, and consequently underdeveloped third world nations, usually inhabited primarily be people of color/black people (in this case almost exclusively for Haiti/Africa), to let them know that you share their hateful points of view.

I mean, it's the same as people complaining about "SJW"s, all you're doing is "virtue signaling" to your fellow anti-SJW's that you're one of them.