Top Ten Warriors in Warcraft History.

[Syegfryed]

2. Ok, how about when Kids/Toddlers shoot and kill their parents with their own guns. A toddler doesn't know how to operate a gun, but they know they want to pull that trigger, and a bullet IS going to at least injure someone or something, whether it's an Elephant or a cat.

you are just making absurd comparisons now

3. Grommash, Varok, Thrall, Gan'ar, Garrosh etc are all capable of killing mountains of Demons.

and they didn't :^)

But more important, they are not "just orcs", they are te most talented warriors the orcs had;

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you are just making absurd comparisons now



and they didn't :^)

But more important, they are not "just orcs", they are te most talented warriors the orcs had;

Being a talented warrior doesn't mean you can wound a planet sized entity through physical prowess, Brox can't bench a planet -_- This goes for every single character in the game.

Also how on earth is it not a good comparison. It's a dangerous powerful weapon that even a child could use to hurt something much bigger. A handgun won't kill an Elephant but you will draw blood. This is exactly what Brox did to Sargeras.

[Syegfryed]

Being a talented warrior doesn't mean you can wound a planet sized entity through physical prowess, Brox can't bench a planet -_- This goes for every single character in the game.

Also how on earth is it not a good comparison. It's a dangerous powerful weapon that even a child could use to hurt something much bigger. A handgun won't kill an Elephant but you will draw blood. This is exactly what Brox did to Sargeras.

You are just ignoring the fact that he kill mountains of demons before hitting sargeras, that alone would make him top tier warrior.

The comparison of a child with gun only would make sense if you put her on a battlefield from, i dunno the troia war alone

Lets say is a special gun who never stay without bullets, against an army of Greeks, lets see if only the weapon make the warrior.

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You are just ignoring the fact that he kill mountains of demons before hitting sargeras, that alone would make him top tier warrior.

The comparison of a child with gun only would make sense if you put her on a battlefield from, i dunno the troia war alone

Lets say is a special gun who never stay without bullets, against an army of Greeks, lets see if only the weapon make the warrior.

Why are you conflating killing lots of demons (humanoid sized enemies) with hurting a PLANET sized entity?
Your argument against the comparison is asinine and makes no sense, because again, your conflating person vs army with person vs planet.
Also Broxigar attacked Sargeras alone, there were no Demons there. He jumped through the portal, hit Sargeras and was then killed.

[SirCowdog]

You can't, actually. The weapon is indestructable. The hands holding it and providing the actual strength for a block... less so.
If you aren't Dante, that is ._.

A fair point. I was speaking mainly within the context of combat involving melee weapons. But you could get pretty creative with your blocks by using the ground or surrounding environment to brace. And a correct parry deflects the force at an angle rather than taking it straight on. A lot depend on the size and dimensions of the weapon, of course.

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Lets say is a special gun who never stay without bullets, against an army of Greeks, lets see if only the weapon make the warrior.

Is the gun a machine-gun? Give me the right hill and a machine-gun that never runs out of ammo and I will absolute destroy that entire army.

But if it's just a pistol, and the Greeks can figure out a way to rush and overwhelm me on an open field, then yeah....I'm screwed.

[Syegfryed]

Why are you conflating killing lots of demons (humanoid sized enemies) with hurting a PLANET sized entity?
Your argument against the comparison is asinine and makes no sense, because again, your conflating person vs army with person vs planet.
Also Broxigar attacked Sargeras alone, there were no Demons there. He jumped through the portal, hit Sargeras and was then killed.

Jesus Christ im conflating a person vs army with a person vs a Army. im not bven talking about he hitting sargeras

Broxx killed mountains of demons, an army of then, he kill so many demons that caught the attention of Sargeras who would kill him in person, this alone make him a top tier warrior, no matter how much you try to dismiss him.

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Jesus Christ im conflating a person vs army with a person vs a Army. im not bven talking about he hitting sargeras

Broxx killed mountains of demons, an army of then, he kill so many demons that caught the attention of Sargeras who would kill him in person, this alone make him a top tier warrior, no matter how much you try to dismiss him.

I'm not dismissing him as a warrior, I'm talking about the very specific instance of him wounding a planet sized Sargeras......that's literally it. You are the one who keeps bringing up 'mountains of demons' as if to compare that to Sargeras. Him killing lots of humanoid sized people doesn't mean his mortal fleshy form can wound a planet sized entity with super thick magic skin. It was the magic weapon that allowed him to do this, anyone else could have hit Sargeras with the Axe and it would have wounded him just the same. Ergo, the gun analogy, it was the weapon that did the damage, not the user.

[derpkitteh]

The fact that Broxigar, the only mortal who has wounded Sargeras, is not on this list, means the list is invalid.

Toranaar, the last king of the Aldrachi, also personally wounded Sargeras.

neither of them personally wounded sargeras. they wounded his two strongest avatars we've ever heard of.

[Aucald]

neither of them personally wounded sargeras. they wounded his two strongest avatars we've ever heard of.

I mean Broxigar and Toranaar achieved the same thing, ultimately - avatar or no, they both wounded an incarnation of Sargeras.

[derpkitteh]

I mean Broxigar and Toranaar achieved the same thing, ultimately - avatar or no, they both wounded an incarnation of Sargeras.

yeah, they did. that's a high mark for toranaar at least, who did it on his own power(albeit through trickery). brox had the axe though, empowered with all the natural might of azeroth.

[Highelf]

varian literally got disintegrated hes barely even worthy of being on this list let alone at the top

Grom literally almost got disintegrated too, he's barely even worthy of being on this list....no sorry I can't even finish an ignorant statement like you did(he even also had fel power too but hey) He also is captured and tortured buy some no name demon and needs us to rescue him.

Lothar went toe to toe with Orgrim and Lothar was pretty old at this point too, well past his prime.

Jarod Shadowsong deserves a spot on this list as well.

Kargath got owned in a 5 man and as the first boss in the first raid so pick a timeline and he's overrated.

Also, I wouldn't call Doomhammer a normalized weapon either.

We are picking warriors based on how they fight 1v1 but what about warriors that hold their ground against insurmountable odds ie. protection warriors?

[Sorrior]

Brox is a great warrior no doubt, but you guys are seriously underestimating the power of the Axe of Cenarius. That thing was so ridiculously overpowered, it was cutting through demons like a hot knife through butter. Even a 12 year old could have swung that thing and decapitated a full grown Orc. Brox is a great warrior, but the Axe overshadows him too much. IMO.

Probably a mix of people both over and underestimating the axe.

I mean he was the sole survivor of his unit in the third war fighting demons for the gods only know h9w long.

He IS an amazing warrior

But the axe did play a part too. Then again to even nick sargeras you orobably need something that OP

As a side note WHY THE F was Broxigars axe NOT a legendary?

[Syegfryed]

Is the gun a machine-gun? Give me the right hill and a machine-gun that never runs out of ammo and I will absolute destroy that entire army.

But if it's just a pistol, and the Greeks can figure out a way to rush and overwhelm me on an open field, then yeah....I'm screwed.

its just a pistol, thats why the weapon alone would do nothing

if it was not by Broxx ability and technique he would be overwhelm by demons, if he was not strong he would never parry the demons attacks or endure the injuries, he would be tired in few minutes or hours being attacked by so many demons relentlessly

I'm not dismissing him as a warrior, I'm talking about the very specific instance of him wounding a planet sized Sargeras......that's literally it. You are the one who keeps bringing up 'mountains of demons' as if to compare that to Sargeras. Him killing lots of humanoid sized people doesn't mean his mortal fleshy form can wound a planet sized entity with super thick magic skin. It was the magic weapon that allowed him to do this, anyone else could have hit Sargeras with the Axe and it would have wounded him just the same. Ergo, the gun analogy, it was the weapon that did the damage, not the user.

and the heck are you bringing only the sargeras thing? we are not putting him on top of the list just because of this, you are ignoring all other things he did

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its just a pistol, thats why the weapon alone would do nothing

if it was not by Broxx ability and technique he would be overwhelm by demons, if he was not strong he would never parry the demons attacks or endure the injuries, he would be tired in few minutes or hours being attacked by so many demons relentlessly



and the heck are you bringing only the sargeras thing? we are not putting him on top of the list just because of this, you are ignoring all other things he did

Actually, yes, that's exactly why people are overestimating Broxigar and the only reason he's even mentioned. It's because he's the only person to ever wound Sargeras.

Heck, just go back to the first page and start reading this thread over again, everyone is mentioning Brox BECAUSE of Sargeras.

Also did you even read my list, Brox is on there......

[Syegfryed]

neither of them personally wounded sargeras. they wounded his two strongest avatars we've ever heard of.

the avatar thing is headcanon, every lore source call it was sargeras itself not an avatar

[derpkitteh]

the avatar thinh is headcanon, every lore source call it was sargeras itself not an avatar

i'm like 99% sure some recent source of canon lore confirmed that even the war of the ancients sargeras was an avatar with his full consciousness in it.

but i can't remember exactly where i heard that.

at any rate, it can't have been the real sargeras. you see how big sargeras is, yes? the other titans died, they're the size they are because they are a fraction of who they were. sargeras is 100% whole, and he doesn't shrink like eredar.

[Syegfryed]

Actually, yes, that's exactly why people are overestimating Broxigor and the only reason he's even mentioned. It's because he's the only person to ever wound Sargeras.

Heck, just go back to the first page and start reading this thread over again, everyone is mentioning Brox BECAUSE of Sargeras.

this is just one of the reasons who make him top tier warrior, not the reason alone, people will bring up this because it was the most impressive, if you count after what he go trough to archive that

As a side note WHY THE F was Broxigars axe NOT a legendary?

you mean artifact weapon? the devs said a nature weapon theme would not fit the arms warriors, call that fantasy class bullshit

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this is just one of the reasons who make him top tier warrior, not the reason alone, people will bring up this because it was the most impressive, if you count after what he go trough to archive that



you mean artifact weapon? the devs said a nature weapon theme would not fit the arms warriors, call that fantasy class bullshit

You're making loopy de loops, your first reply to me was based on the fact that anyone could use the Axe of cenarius to hurt Sargeras.....so yes, that is your contemption of my post. So why are you retracting back to him fighting armies? That was never my contention, he's on my list for that reason alone. Here, I'll repost it.

1. Grom Hellscream
2. Orgrim Doomhammer
3. Anduin Lothar
4. Cairne Bloodhoof
5. Varian Wrynn
6. Garrosh Hellscream
7. Varok Saurfang
8. Broxigar Saurfang
9. Muradin Bronzebeard
10. Jarod Shadowsong

[Sorrior]

Actually, yes, that's exactly why people are overestimating Broxigar and the only reason he's even mentioned. It's because he's the only person to ever wound Sargeras.

Heck, just go back to the first page and start reading this thread over again, everyone is mentioning Brox BECAUSE of Sargeras.

Also did you even read my list, Brox is on there......

Actualllly i at least brought up his feats in the final battle if warcraft 3. That gave him serious survivors guilt

[Syegfryed]

i'm like 99% sure some recent source of canon lore confirmed that even the war of the ancients sargeras was an avatar with his full consciousness in it.

but i can't remember exactly where i heard that.

at any rate, it can't have been the real sargeras. you see how big sargeras is, yes? the other titans died, they're the size they are because they are a fraction of who they were. sargeras is 100% whole, and he doesn't shrink like eredar.

i just check out the wiki, and said sargeras did use a avatar to fight the aldrachi king, but no avatar is mentioned about Broxx.

the "altar" in argus for broxxigar also said he wounded Sargeras itself, not an avatar.