Democrats in the Senate have 50 votes now to overrule the FCC on Net Neutrality

[Zaydin]

This is good news. Under the Congressional Review Act, it takes just a simple majority to overrule a federal regulation enacted in the past 60 days and Chuck Schumer says there are now fifty votes in the Senate to do just that, meaning they need to flip just one more Republican to undo the damage the corporate stooge running the FCC did last month.

Democrats are also vowing to make net neutrality a campaign issue, one I imagine vulnerable Republicans don't want to be dealing with with the fat albatross named Donald Trump shackled to their ankles this year given how popular net neutrality is in polling.

[BlackMage66652]

Dear Odin,

Please give one Republican a brain for a moment and join the fuck train against the asshole running the FCC.

Forever in Your Service,
BlackMage66652

[Zaydin]

Dear Odin,

Please give one Republican a brain for a moment and join the fuck train against the asshole running the FCC.

Forever in Your Service,
BlackMage66652

Well, like I said, net neutrality polls very well so I doubt any Republican wants to be in this position right now where their choice is siding with Trump and his corporate stooge and defending the destruction of the internet as we know it or siding with their constituents.

One would think it's not a hard decision to make given how unpopular Sweet Potato Saddam is.

[Kujako]

No they're not... has to pass BOTH chambers of Congress, and then be signed by Trump. So they are roughly... zero percent of the way to overruling the net neutrality repeal.

[Felya]

Somehow the Republican party will screw this up.

They already did... this would be them screwing up the fix.

[cubby]

This is good news. Under the Congressional Review Act, it takes just a simple majority to overrule a federal regulation enacted in the past 60 days and Chuck Schumer says there are now fifty votes in the Senate to do just that, meaning they need to flip just one more Republican to undo the damage the corporate stooge running the FCC did last month.

Democrats are also vowing to make net neutrality a campaign issue, one I imagine vulnerable Republicans don't want to be dealing with with the fat albatross named Donald Trump shackled to their ankles this year given how popular net neutrality is in polling.

Does it just take a Senate vote to undo a federal regulation? No House vote? Just 51 yes' and we're good? Because if so that is outstanding.

[Nellise]

Does it just take a Senate vote to undo a federal regulation? No House vote? Just 51 yes' and we're good? Because if so that is outstanding.

No, the article says it still has to pass the House and be signed by Trump.

[cubby]

No, the article says it still has to pass the House and be signed by Trump.

I think it would have helped a LOT if I had read the article. More coffee is needed here. Thanks for the response and not slaying me for it.

[Grapemask]

Sadly it probably won't go anywhere in the House, even if it passes the Senate. They didn't win over a particularly revolutionary Republican vote - Collins has been on the fringe with Democrat issues for a while now. Plus, more than 100 members of the House wrote a letter of explicit support for Ajit Pai's lunacy, and Trump himself spoke out against net neutrality in several of his campaign events even in the unlikely event that it gets to his desk.

(Inc the usual suspects to talk about net neutrality killing competition and other complete nonsense, wearing their typical teflon suits that resist all logic and data)

[Xeones]

Almost zero chance of the gerrymandered house doing the right thing.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Somehow the Republican party will screw this up.

That makes it all the better of a campaign issue in the 2018 elections. Although it will be unfortunate that the repeal of NN is what it takes to make Americans sane again and not high off of nationalist populism.

[Grapemask]

That makes it all the better of a campaign issue in the 2018 elections. Although it will be unfortunate that the repeal of NN is what it takes to make Americans sane again and not high off of nationalist populism.

It won't even make them sane again, that's the sad part. Just look at the conservatives here - if they're not going through incredible mental gymnastics to defend Ajit Pai's actions, they're just ignoring the issue altogether. I think I've seen maybe one explicitly go against the party line.

That's just incredible given that obviously, every one of them uses the internet and should want it to thrive. Just imagine the broader conservative/independent public as a whole that may not use the internet as much or understand it.

[Elegiac]

It won't even make them sane again, that's the sad part. Just look at the conservatives here - if they're not going through incredible mental gymnastics to defend Ajit Pai's actions, they're just ignoring the issue altogether. I think I've seen maybe one explicitly go against the party line.

That's just incredible given that obviously, every one of them uses the internet and should want it to thrive. Just imagine the broader conservative/independent public as a whole that may not use the internet as much or understand it.

The technology gap is real.

[Xeones]

Maybe congress should pass laws rather than letting 3-5 bureaucrats no one elected create law. Can Democrats sponsor a clean net neutrality bill? Or would they flood it with pork because the headline generation (as proven numerous times in this very thread) are incapable of reading and understanding context?

The FCC did it because we just had 6 years of "NO".

Can congress do it? Yea probably not until 2020 though.

[Moralgy]

Republicans control the house and the presidency. There is zero hope of NN existing again until that changes.

[yetgdhfgh]

Grab your keyboards My Internet warriors we have one more battle to win.

Surely some swing state Republican can be swayed if we try hard enough?

[Antiganon]

Grab your keyboards My Internet warriors we have one more battle to win.

Surely some swing state Republican can be swayed if we try hard enough?

Yeah Murkowski most likely.

But it won't matter (in terms of actually passing), this is DOA in the House, and if it miraculously passes there, Trump is almost certain to veto. Zero chance of a veto override with current seat distribution, especially given that Trump would take a veto override as a personal affront from any GOP Senators or Reps that voted to override.

[ati87]

Maybe congress should pass laws rather than letting 3-5 bureaucrats no one elected create law. Can Democrats sponsor a clean net neutrality bill? Or would they flood it with pork because the headline generation (as proven numerous times in this very thread) are incapable of reading and understanding context?

Enough elected people who are borderline mentally self appointed experts.....So what the F does it matter if they are elected or not? Having people actually knowing this shit is more important than having idiots being elected for certain rolls.

Problem is ofc that for the right-wing the donors come first and then everything else.

[Felya]

You have an opinion. Do you know anything about network topography and infrastructure? Commerce law? 1st amendment?

Yes on all... now what?

[Grapemask]

Maybe congress should pass laws rather than letting 3-5 bureaucrats no one elected create law. Can Democrats sponsor a clean net neutrality bill? Or would they flood it with pork because the headline generation (as proven numerous times in this very thread) are incapable of reading and understanding context?

The whole reason we have the FCC and other regulatory bodies, empowered by Congress, is because they can move faster than Congress on issues that need immediate results, and they can be staffed by people that are specifically knowledgable in the domains that they regulate. We'd have even more disfunction, at an exponential rate, if we left this stuff only to Congress.

And as for your later mentioning of internet and networking... the people who invented the thing and the people who know the most in the world about networking say net neutrality is a foundational requirement for the internet to function correctly and as it was intended. Hell, if anyone said net neutrality should be left to corporations during the internet's inception, they never would have expanded beyond ARPA/DARPA and NSFnet (the early internet disallowed corporate involvement in the backbone for this very reason, in fact).