Will Democrates shut down the gov't for interest of foreigners?

[Elegiac]

Fixed for you

Tfw you're so tribalistic you label refusing to countenance obviously inhumane acts that have no social benefit "pandering".

[Zan15]

It's telling that the OP ran away from his/her own thread.

that's how 90% of these threads end up.
Also when you respond back to some of the people with actual fact they up and disappear too.

Seems to happen more so on one side of the table then the other i noticed....

[Bullettime]

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Except the Republicans don't want to can the DACA either.

It's not a partisan issue. Both sides know the DACA being axed is suicide. It's the Republicans can't be against or for the DACA because of their own unique predicament of balancing establishment vs Trumpkins and the Dems called their shit and are letting them sink their own ship.

[Kujako]

Except the Republicans don't want to can the DACA either.

That's what they claim, but their actions say otherwise.

[Bullettime]

That's what they claim, but their actions say otherwise.

They don't. It's literally fucking suicide for them to do it but it's such an important point for Trump and the Republican base.

It's a case of Republicans can't be for the compromise or get primaried but can't be against the compromise or feed the Dems talking points against them during a critical period.

The GOP can ram through whatever the fuck they want but their own party can't get on the same page because of that. Dems are just letting the GOP hang themselves.

edit: Basically, this isn't the hill the GOP want to die on but the Dems are playing hardball and making them face consequences for getting in bed with who they did.

[Kujako]

They don't. It's literally fucking suicide for them to do it but it's such an important point for Trump and the Republican base.

It's a case of Republicans can't be for the compromise or get primaried but can't be against the compromise or feed the Dems talking points against them during a critical period.

The GOP can ram through whatever the fuck they want but their own party can't get on the same page because of that. Dems are just letting the GOP hang themselves.

Who do you think canceled DACA in the first place?

[Bullettime]

Who do you think canceled DACA in the first place?

But that's actually making my point.

They're being stonewalled by their own party because they want to backtrack on it while also pandering to their base at the same time but the Freedom Caucus is putting up the block and the Dems are sitting in the corner laughing at them.

It's all political theater but the game of chicken is going to be interesting to watch.

[ati87]

They're upset that the Dems, for once, are taking a page out of their own playbook and playing hardball by calling their bluff.

It's basically like when they admitted in the past that bipartisanship is only when Dems come across the aisle to their side.

Not their playbook though, it is not equal.

Republicans control enough of US government to avoid a shutdown, but because the right-wing are nothing but bunch of screwups they still have a possibility of a shutdown.

Look at it this way. The last

[Dontrike]

It's all political theater but the game of chicken is going to be interesting to watch.

I wouldn't even call it chicken. It's one side that's racing towards the cliff while the other is sitting there in the car eating a burger watching on to see what happens next.

[Bullettime]

I wouldn't even call it chicken. It's one side that's racing towards the cliff while the other is sitting there in the car eating a burger watching on to see what happens next.

Game of chicken is more between the GOP factions.

The Dems are just kicked back and laughing at the dumpster fire while the two GOP factions can't decide on what weapon they're going to use to shoot themselves with.

[cubby]

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I wish you had even the slightest clue as to what we were discussing. DACA is about doing the right thing. It's not the democrats' fault that the GOP can't see the obvious.

Or is it a good idea to send someone back to a foreign country they have no knowledge of because they were smuggled into the United States 20 years ago?

[Lenonis]

DACA is about doing the right thing.

You have to look at this question with zero empathy. That's the only way to see the conservative view. These folks came here illegally -- doesn't matter that they had no choice. They are lawbreakers and need to be sent back.

Which, as stated, only makes sense in a world with zeeeeeero empathy.

[Zaydin]

So has anyone reminded the Trumpanzees that it was just in September when Trump declared that 'we' needed a 'good' government shutdown?

[Elegiac]

So has anyone reminded the Trumpanzees that it was just in September when Trump declared that 'we' needed a 'good' government shutdown?

It'd be about as effective as reminding them that Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, whose funding is the reason a shutdown might be possible.

[Noxx79]

Fixed for you

If the republicans actually treated these people as humans worthy of respect, they may have gotten some of those “future votes”.

[cubby]

You have to look at this question with zero empathy. That's the only way to see the conservative view. These folks came here illegally -- doesn't matter that they had no choice. They are lawbreakers and need to be sent back.

Which, as stated, only makes sense in a world with zeeeeeero empathy.

I keep forgetting the GOP doesn't give a rats ass about anyone but themselves and their donors.

[BrerBear]

It'd be about as effective as reminding them that Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, whose funding is the reason a shutdown might be possible.

Or that Trump started this whole thing by killing DACA with a March deadline in the first place.

[Orbitus]

The same way Republicans shut it down when they didn't have the majority? Or was the shutdown the Democrats fault back then

If you are talking about 2013, then you are wrong. 2013 was Ted Cruz's shutdown. When he spent time literally reading Dr. Seuss books to shut down the government over something that was going to go into effect anyway, regardless of the shutdown. And the Republicans controlled both the house and the senate at the time.

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Except, nothing in DACA gives them citizenship. So you didn't fix it, you just made yourself look ignorant. AGAIN.

[Zaydin]

If you are talking about 2013, then you are wrong. 2013 was Ted Cruz's shutdown. When he spent time literally reading Dr. Seuss books to shut down the government over something that was going to go into effect anyway, regardless of the shutdown. And the Republicans controlled both the house and the senate at the time.

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Except, nothing in DACA gives them citizenship. So you didn't fix it, you just made yourself look ignorant. AGAIN.

Republicans controlled the House in 2013. They took the Senate in 2014.

It was still a GOP shutdown, though.

[Delana]

Enjoyable to see this defended and wanting American citizens to remain that way is "disgusting". I can only imagine the frail ego needed to see DACA "kids" doing so well compared to you that you feel the need to remove them from the country.

Depos gonna depo.

I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.