Will Democrates shut down the gov't for interest of foreigners?

[Edge-]

I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.

DACA...slave labor? What?

[Delana]

Except the majority of politicians on both sides of the aisle support the DACA because of it being humanitarian. The Republicans just can't be openly either for or against it which is creating the current problem and why they don't even have the votes to ram it through, even though they have the numbers.

The laws aren't the politicians laws. Imagine, the people having a say in who joins their country.

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And the desire of people in both Congress and in general to deport people that are American in all but legal recognition for the sake of 'make America white again' is vastly more disgusting.

"Other people's money"; you mean the people that put the Democrats in Congress? Cause it sure as hell ain't Republicans paying those taxes.

Can every white American move to Namibia, or do you think that would be problematic in some way?

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DACA...slave labor? What?

What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

[Edge-]

What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

Do...you know who the Dreamers protected by DACA are? Because they're not working doing your "stereotypical" illegal immigrant work of picking fruit or cleaning rooms...

[Belize]

What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

DACA has nothing to do with a "Continuous influx of workers" due to having strict time restrictions, and nothing to do with slave labor since it requires you to pursue an education or serve in the military.

Good try though? Might want to stop listening to Conservative trash and edumacate yourself.

https://www.us-immigration.com/defer...on-I-821D.html

[Elegiac]

The laws aren't the politicians laws. Imagine, the people having a say in who joins their country.

Really now?

Well you'd be in the minority, since the vast majority of Americans favor granting work permits or citizenship for Dreamers.

And I deliberately used a Fox News poll, so you can't claim 'bias'.

Can every white American move to Namibia, or do you think that would be problematic in some way?

Dunno, can you make a case for DACA deportation without resorting to pointless hypotheticals?

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What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

Pretty sure it's Republicans and their consistent opposition of minimum wage hikes.

[Thekri]

Do...you know who the Dreamers protected by DACA are? Because they're not working doing your "stereotypical" illegal immigrant work of picking fruit or cleaning rooms...

Of course he doesn't know who they are. All he knows is that Hannity told him they were evil foreigners. You also missed the other part of the sentence, where he claims that labor is basically free in the US... That would come as very unexpected news to the accountants where I work, because we are paying a premium for all forms of labor in this economy.

[alexw]

I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.

You do realize that the dreamers are basically no different than an American born citizen outside of their citizenship status? They have attended regular schools like everyone else. They've attended college like everyone else. They work and pay taxes like everyone else.

Saying the dreamers affect people you know is like saying the now adult children of your average American family negatively affects people you know, because that is what they are to all intents and purposes.

[Jastall]

The laws aren't the politicians laws. Imagine, the people having a say in who joins their country.

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Can every white American move to Namibia, or do you think that would be problematic in some way?

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What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

Do you even know what you're talking about? The people affected by DACA are educated and/or have good jobs, and the program concerns a specific subset of people from a specific period of time. They're not any random José who paid the coyotes to cross and is picking raspberries in southern California. Your objections cannot be levied at them.

[Elegiac]

Is anyone going to stop that dastardly villain Democrates, though?

[Celista]

Can someone please fix the typo in the title...? Seriously makes my brain sad as to how many typos are in thread titles in OT.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The laws aren't the politicians laws. Imagine, the people having a say in who joins their country.

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Can every white American move to Namibia, or do you think that would be problematic in some way?

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What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

It's no surprise that the people most vehemently against DACA have no fucking clue what it even is. But that's how most policy goes with Republicans. They're so heatedly against something and as you grill them about it, you quickly find out their idea of what it is is something entirely different from what it really is. And when they insist they're right, you ask them to point out where in the law it says what they think it does, they just deflect and make excuses, even when the law is freely available online for them to see.

[SirBeef]

I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.

Seems like a waste of an education since you don't even know information that can be found with a cursory google search.

[Wyrt]

Um, Republicans control the House and Senate. If the government gets shut down it's on them. Democrats have no obligation to go along with Republican plans.

[Xeones]

Republicans will blame democrats no matter what.

Democrats have no reason to assist republicans with their evil.

Compromise doesn't simply mean "Democrats always give ground first".

[Bullettime]

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What do you think keeps the price of labor where it is (basically free) ? Maybe the continuous influx of workers?

Do you even have a fucking clue what the DACA is? Here's a hint, it's not just the people who hopped the border and are working on a farm in Southern California.

There's reason why, on both a political AND humanitarian level, it's such a hot button issue behind the scenes with congress and why the majority of the GOP are even trying (edit: or at least open) to backtrack on Trump ending it.

[Orbitus]

Republicans controlled the House in 2013. They took the Senate in 2014.

It was still a GOP shutdown, though.

Either way, we all watched Ted Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham to the world with his retarded filibuster, over Obamacare funding, funding that would have went into effect unless Democrats shut it off. It didn't matter if the shutdown happened or not, it still would have went through. I believe all of the shutdowns have been Republican shutdowns. Gingrich warned the Republicans last time and it still happened.

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I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.

I don't think you know what DACA is, so I highly doubt you have a Ph.D. DACA people are young people, in school, college and educated jobs. They can't vote because they aren't citizens. And they don't work as slave labor. What are you smoking?

[Mormolyce]

Is anyone going to stop that dastardly villain Democrates, though?

Save us, Apollonius of Tyana!

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Can someone please fix the typo in the title...? Seriously makes my brain sad as to how many typos are in thread titles in OT.

I dunno, I think it sets the tone of the debate admirably.

[unfilteredJW]

I have a Ph.D and make 6 figures. DACA doesnt affect my job. It does, however, affect the jobs of people I grew up with just so that corporate america can have slave labor and Democrats can have votes.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is a lie based on your inability to understand what you are talking about.

And this is one strong, sturdy, comfy limb.

[draynay]

Do...you know who the Dreamers protected by DACA are?

Do you even know what you're talking about?

Do you even have a fucking clue what the DACA is?

I don't think you know what DACA is

Quite the response, seems DACA is divided into two camps: those who support it, and those who have no idea what it is.

[unfilteredJW]

Quite the response, seems DACA is divided into two camps: those who support it, and those who have no idea what it is.

But they have a Ph D and make 6 figures.

And I'm guessing, also, a unicorn.