Will Democrates shut down the gov't for interest of foreigners?

[Wyrt]

but yeah, idk if the shutdown will be avoided. i just hope it doesn't hurt democrats too much.

It shouldn't. Only idiots think it's the Democrat's fault and those idiots wouldn't vote for Democrats regardless.

[Kronik85]

It makes sense when you realize he said Democrates instead of Democrats.

Well you've spoiled that one for me.

Thought I was on for another 2 or 3 posts there before the jig was up.

[Bullettime]

i'm watching the news on this right now, they just talked to lindsey graham. despite him being a conservative, i actually kinda like him. but does anyone else kinda think he might snort a line or two during these votes? he comes out extremely sweaty, sometimes his pupils are dilated, the eye movement is there.

but yeah, idk if the shutdown will be avoided. i just hope it doesn't hurt democrats too much.

Republicans are taking the bulk of the flak due to how transparent the whole situation is.

edit: Especially when this was all set to be avoided but was torpedoed at the 11th hour by Trump.

[Machismo]

i'm watching the news on this right now, they just talked to lindsey graham. despite him being a conservative, i actually kinda like him. but does anyone else kinda think he might snort a line or two during these votes? he comes out extremely sweaty, sometimes his pupils are dilated, the eye movement is there.

but yeah, idk if the shutdown will be avoided. i just hope it doesn't hurt democrats too much.

Polling indicates it's more likely to hurt Trump and the GOP.

[akris15]

Polling indicates it's more likely to hurt Trump and the GOP.

Right now its basically running 2 to 1 that Republicans and more specifically Trump will get the blame.

[Machismo]

Right now its basically running 2 to 1 that Republicans and more specifically Trump will get the blame.

Well, it depends on the polls. One poll has the Democrats in Congress getting the most blame, but mainly because Trump and the Republicans are in two different categories, so they are splitting the vote. In the end, the GOP will get the blame, but it's not going to shift many votes. Personally, I'm looking forward to the shutdown. It's going to make traffic way better around here.

[Kujako]

Senate vote failed to pass the house bill. And the house went home already. So odds are that's that.

[PACOX]

Well GOP, this is one thing you can pass in the dead of night before anyone even knows whats being voted on. The Dems have drawn their line it seems, now the GOP must actually come to the table and do some politicing

[Fahrenheit]

Well GOP, this is one thing you can pass in the dead of night before anyone even knows whats being voted on. The Dems have drawn their line it seems, now the GOP must actually come to the table and do some politicing

The funny thing is, they already did. We had a bipartisan compromise last week. Trump torpedoed it and called some countries shitholes in the process.

[Bullettime]

The funny thing is, they already did. We had a bipartisan compromise last week. Trump torpedoed it and called some countries shitholes in the process.

The best part of the whole thing is how the GOP were basically on board with eliminating the DACA originally so they could bring it back in a bipartisan fashion through their deal with the Democrats and play the hero so both sides could "win."

Then Trump happened and blew their knees off with an orange shotgun.

[Zan15]

TRUMP IS PSYCHIC!


“When they talk about the government shutdown” in the future, “they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States.”-Trump 2013


“It always happens to be the top. I mean, the problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top,” Trump said then. “The president is the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

[Moshots]

Well GOP, this is one thing you can pass in the dead of night before anyone even knows whats being voted on. The Dems have drawn their line it seems, now the GOP must actually come to the table and do some politicing

The dem's have drawn their line on caring more about illegals than american citizens..

Shut down the goverment put people out of work just cause republicans want to send illegals home...Democrat Logic. Hopefully it does shut down and people can see why so 2020 who they should vote for and its not the demcrats who are showing they don't give a shit about our country or about AMERICANS just getting illegals in to win the Minority vote

[Toppy]

The dem's have drawn their line on caring more about illegals than american citizens..

Shut down the goverment put people out of work just cause republicans want to send illegals home...Democrat Logic. Hopefully it does shut down and people can see why so 20220 who should vote for and its not the demcrats who are showing they don't give a shit about our country just getting illegals in to win the Minority vote

Republicans voted against it to you know. A fair number infact.

[Shadowferal]

The negotiator-in-chief fucked this up.
Guess he got tired of winning.
Or he imagined that this would stop Mueller from doing his thing.

[Moshots]

Republicans voted against it to you know. A fair number infact.

They voted against a house short-term budget that would have only funded a few weks... Not a real resolution. the democrats are the ones holding up any talk of real long term resolutions..

[Shadowferal]

Most Blame Trump, and the GOP for being idiots-as-usual

[Bullettime]

They voted against a house short-term budget that would have only funded a few weks... Not a real resolution. the democrats are the ones holding up any talk of real long term resolutions..

Most in the GOP don't want the DACA actually gone either. It's fucking political suicide for any who hold seats in the south or southwest.

The plan was to "get rid of it" to appease the base then have a bipartisan agreement where both sides ultimately got what they wanted, then Trump wouldn't keep his word and shot it down at the 11th hour and forced the scramble. Now the GOP are effectively infighting over whether to side with Trump and ram their plan through (which could have disastrous implications) or negotiate with Democrats which would get stonewalled in the House.

The GOP can pass whatever the fuck they want. They have the raw numbers to have the Dems effectively sit at home while they legislate this whole ordeal. But they can't get on the same page because it's not a black and white issue, and it's making their whole party and Trump look terrible because it all could have been avoided. GOP congressmen have even stated that Trump's word is meaningless and one of the key reasons they're in the situation they're in.

[schwarzkopf]

I know a lot of people are confused as to who is at fault - so I made this handy cheat sheet:



PS: Sarcasm alert

[PosPosPos]

TRUMP IS PSYCHIC!


“When they talk about the government shutdown” in the future, “they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States.”-Trump 2013


“It always happens to be the top. I mean, the problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top,” Trump said then. “The president is the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

Republicans are egregious self-fulfilling prophecies.

If they make ludicrous strawmen about non-existent issues, you can bet they will manufacture such a situation by their own hands.

Republican: "OMG we have to take precautions to protect this Very-Breakable-Vase from being broken by clumsy people"
Everyone else: "It's not in the way of anyone's path and it's rather difficult to tip it over, stop being dramatic"
Republican: *takes a hammer and smashes Very-Breakable-Vase*
Everyone else: ......
Republican: "SEE I TOLD YOU SO WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME LOLBURALS"

[Zaydin]

And so the sh@tshow shutdown has begun! So much for Trump being a great dealmaker, not that any sane American believed it anyways.