Scarlett Johansson is a hypocrite

[Flarelaine]

If the accused man was innocent, it would look like justice.

The he-said-she-said nature inherent to such situations that has so far protected the (alleged) rapists in the court of law is now making them unable to defend themselves in the court of public opinion.

[caervek]

I guess you won't be seeing the upcoming Avengers movies or the stand alone Black Widow movie then?

They are actually giving her a standalone movie O.O

Even after stinking up the previous avenger films and clearly demonstrating she has zero ability to pull off the character? wow, just wow.

[Grokresh]

The he-said-she-said nature inherent to such situations that has so far protected the (alleged) rapists in the court of law is now making them unable to defend themselves in the court of public opinion.

It's not really fair on anyone, the public are free to their opinions however much some posters here belief that people should stay 100% neutral but if you think someone commited rape you may be uncomfortable watching them in a film and thats up to you as an individual. It's not fair on the innocent accused but it's not fair that real criminals don't get found guilty due to a lack of evidence, there is no real fix to either issue, court of public opinion is just a fairly natural phenomnon that is unlikely to change, nor should criminal courts change to require less evidence.

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#metoo is just an example of misuse. Great idea but when it's constantly misused it loses it's impact. Besises we're in the age of cell phones where is the evidence. Just pointing a finger and shouting at every man won't do tgis movement any favors.

Recording a man raping you sounds like a great way to get battered or have your phone battered.

[Blamblam41]

#metoo is just an example of misuse. Great idea but when it's constantly misused it loses it's impact. Besises we're in the age of cell phones where is the evidence. Just pointing a finger and shouting at every man won't do tgis movement any favors.

At what point do you define misuse? At which point is 'misuse' just the reality of sexual predation?

Who the hell are you again? God? King of Earth? Oh right, chuck-nobody from MMOC saying that #metoo is misused, got it.

In the age of cell phones where is the evidence? I don't know, seems like we have a lot of video evidence of police killing innocent people around here and that doesn't seem to do shit. You act like it's easy to whip out a cellphone, enter your unlock method, mash camera and mash record before someone puts their dick away/overpowers you.

It's almost like you've never had any kind of sexual advance taken on you.

[Deleted]

Feminism is not a hate movement that is insane, you still have people fired from jobs for not wearing shoes that cripple, you still have women being raped and people will ask "What was she wearing" domestic violence is rampant still, feminism is needed.

Feminism is needed in easter countries perhaps, but not in western society. What western society needs is a movement that strives for equality between both genders in order to polish current gender equality. Feminism in the past few years has turned into man hate, which has no place in modern societies.

[Grokresh]

The problem is neither court can get things right and there is a lot more effort in placing blame than in building a consensus on what each society deems as harassment/assault, what the penalties should be for each charge, how consent is to be granted or withdrawn and how people can protect themselves.
The last in particular is so crucial and there seems little effort to do anything about it with one side downplaying how disgustingly common assault is and the other side considering any preemptive measure and suggestion as victim blaming.

I agree as a leftie that leftists say any form of trying to get a women to be careful is victim blaming, if I don't lock my frontdoor and people break in, people would want to know why I didn't lock my frontdoor. Likewise a women shouldn't go in areas known for being dangerous alone, or leave unattended drinks at pubs or such things. There are ways to be safer, possibly pepperspray? It's still his fault for raping but there are things you can attempt to at least make yourself less likely to be a victim though its always still possible, staying out with group of friends, sharing taxis etc when possible.

[Grokresh]

Feminism is needed in easter countries perhaps, but not in western society. What western society needs is a movement that strives for equality between both genders in order to polish current gender equality. Feminism in the past few years has turned into man hate, which has no place in modern societies.

If you truly believe women are equal to men in oppertunity and safety from the opposite sex in Western society you are delusional.

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Harvey Weinstein got busted by a recording. The whole #metoo thing isn't just about sexual assault. You really need to try to bait harder.

What are you talking about then? If not sexual assault and rape?

[Grokresh]

Abuse of power for sexual favors from the catalyst Harvey Weinstein and the people that fed him fresh people. That shit pretty much everywhere in Hollywood. Ironic since cali is supposed to be some liberal mecha.

Well yeah that can be proven with recordings ofc, but not all of the metoo movement related issues can be proven with recordings or full stop, sadly some things will always be he said she said, people will get away with crimes, people will be torn apart based on nothing more then public opinion, unlikely to change.

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Do you think she wouldve complained if she was still below the age of 30?
Nope, because then she could use her body to get what she wants.

Now that's she older, and looks older, she suddenly thinks the opposite.

[Grokresh]

Do you think she wouldve complained if she was still below the age of 30?
Nope, because then she could use her body to get what she wants.

Now that's she older, and looks older, she suddenly thinks the opposite.

Misogynistic way to view her motives.

[Flarelaine]

It's not really fair on anyone, the public are free to their opinions however much some posters here belief that people should stay 100% neutral but if you think someone commited rape you may be uncomfortable watching them in a film and thats up to you as an individual. It's not fair on the innocent accused but it's not fair that real criminals don't get found guilty due to a lack of evidence, there is no real fix to either issue, court of public opinion is just a fairly natural phenomnon that is unlikely to change, nor should criminal courts change to require less evidence.

The public are free to form opinions, that is true. However, I believe that "right to an opinion" has been taken too far these days and led to "right to believe egregiously stupid things despite facts". We should always strive to establish and then accept and respect facts.

[Blamblam41]

Do you think she wouldve complained if she was still below the age of 30?
Nope, because then she could use her body to get what she wants.

Now that's she older, and looks older, she suddenly thinks the opposite.

Man it's almost as if you took sexual predation out of the equation, the world would function without so much black market back door sexually abusive bullshit.

Which is why it's always confused me that America criminalized prostitution, even though it served this very purpose during the gold rush and built the entire western coastline.

[Flarelaine]

The problem is neither court can get things right and there is a lot more effort in placing blame than in building a consensus on what each society deems as harassment/assault, what the penalties should be for each charge, how consent is to be granted or withdrawn and how people can protect themselves.
The last in particular is so crucial and there seems little effort to do anything about it with one side downplaying how disgustingly common assault is and the other side considering any preemptive measure and suggestion as victim blaming.

Amen, brother.

[Grokresh]

So women are incapable of defending themselves? Stun guns, bear mace, basic self defense not fucking trusting everyone that says hey I can get you a gig? ya onow common fucking sense stuff.

Female Police officers are raped, I think that proves self defense isn't the entire thing and its just not that simple.

[Deleted]

Misogynistic way to view her motives.

Call it as you want.

I like to see things as they really are.

[Grokresh]

The public are free to form opinions, that is true. However, I believe that "right to an opinion" has been taken too far these days and led to "right to believe egregiously stupid things despite facts". We should always strive to establish and then accept and respect facts.

You can believe it's being taken too far if you want but it's not going to change things, you have the right to believe that its gone to far and other people have the right to believe it's fine. Short of thought police this is one issue you can't fix or change.

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Call it as you want.

I like to see things as they really are.

The way you perceive things to be without any evidence of her motives is "the way they really are"

[Blamblam41]

Call it as you want.

I like to see things as they really are.

Okay. Let's try sad forum poster wishing he could be with either pre-30 or post 30 Scarjo making up stereotypical nonsense to pose as his world views to seem edgy on a video game forum.

Add in a little salt when his world views are challenged and a bit extra edge when it comes to justifying them and bam @Deruyter.

[Zoibert the Bear]

I find it hilarious that people would give credibility to the opinion and nonsensical rumblings of people who make a living out of acting out as being someone else.

Considering the absolute level of dumbness that society has been able to spill out over the last few years though, it does not surprise me at all.

[Blamblam41]

I find it hilarious that people would give credibility to the opinion and nonsensical rumblings of people who make a living out of acting out as being someone else.

Considering the absolute level of dumbness that society has been able to spill out over the last few years though, it does not surprise me at all.

Considering people have been giving actors opinions credibility for years: I don't see your point. Reagan was a fucking actor, Donald Trump was a TV "star".

You're an idiot if you honestly think people are popular just because they play characters on a screen.

[Zoibert the Bear]

Misogynistic way to view her motives.

It is not misogynistic. It's just one of a few possible motives.

Deeming something inherently misogynistic without any insight on the thought process to arrive to such conclusion poster is stamp mark for mental disability.