UK Nanny State is Out of Control! , Mandatory Calorie Caps now?

[Grokresh]

You say this as if people going to Mcdonalds are making a conscious decision to consume excess calories and are now being denied that personal choice. If you want a burger and chips then you'll still get a burger and chips. Why does it matter to you if the calories are lower? It's not as if it's going to suddenly taste awful from reduced content or altered recipe.

This is probably true, but they may make portions smaller.

[Orlong]

But that said, we've done all this, and obesity rates are still continuing to rise. It's all well and good for you lot in America to turn around and be against this, because the increase in obesity related diseases later in life don't affect you lot if you aren't fat, due to way your healthcare system works. For us, it does, so the government is exploring every option to attempt to make a healthier population that will have less of a strain on the NHS.

Obese people should actually help your socialist healthcare system because they usually die before they retire. You wont need to spend $50,000 per year when they are 80 years old and need a personal full time nurse, and tons of expensive meds

[slackjawsix]

How do you justify your hypocrisy on the issue of nanny states?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...More-Regulated

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...an-Restaurants

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...upport-Him-100

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...l-Reservations

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...s-To-Be-Banned

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...s-To-Be-Banned

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...tle-Challenges

Yep, that makes you a proven hypocrite.

lol rekt, hes just triggered fatty neckbeard MAGA!!!

[Machismo]

Obese people should actually help your socialist healthcare system because they usually die before they retire. You wont need to spend $50,000 per year when they are 80 years old and need a personal full time nurse, and tons of expensive meds

Are you still trying to push your hypocritical narrative? Why do you hate freedom so damn much?

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lol rekt, hes just triggered fatty neckbeard MAGA!!!

I want to think that he's simply a satire account, whose sole job is to mock himself and hypocritical "conservatives," but I think he may actually be serious.

[Thorim]

The new suggestions

suggestions

Lots of "may" and "might" and "suggest", where is the 'mandate' portion of this op?

[tehdef]

Fucking good. People are getting fat because they don't have any control.

Obesity is a fucking epidemic, and scourge on the human race.

[Independent voter]

I don't want the state involved in my life anymore than it already is.

[Deleted]

The reason I am opposed to it is, it feels like another step toward a Big Brother watching over you state. Or a Nanny state as some think. I am not opposed to some regulation for the safety of the people. But this law being considered, if it was here, I would be opposed to it as a overreach by the government. And I think you will continue to see obesity rates rise if it passes.

If we continue to see obesity rates rise, then this will have been a failure, but i'd rather have the government actually try and do something but fail, instead of just watching our population get fatter and fatter without doing anything.

As far as "Big Brother", NSA and the Patriot Act says hi.

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Which will greatly increase prices as well, meaning people will be able to buy less of the "healthier" food and still be hungry. And the food they ARE able to get will taste like shit since there is no sugar, fat, or flavor in it.

They won't increase in prices because if they do no one will buy them. These proposed laws are purely targeting "convenience foods" such as Fast Food and Ready Meals, there comes a point where the price becomes too much to justify the convenience, so they'll do everything in there power to keep prices as they are.

None. A few left wing large cities have a sugar tax and several tried it and repealed it due to constituent outrage and ineffectiveness (people just bought soda in the next town over).

My apologies then, i'd been led to believe that the sugar tax was a bigger thing in America.

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Obese people should actually help your socialist healthcare system because they usually die before they retire. You wont need to spend $50,000 per year when they are 80 years old and need a personal full time nurse, and tons of expensive meds

No, we have to spend a large sum of money when they start to have failing bodies in there early 50s.

Just because they die early doesn't mean we have to spend any less money on them.

[Adam Jensen]

How do you justify your hypocrisy on the issue of nanny states?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...More-Regulated

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...an-Restaurants

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...upport-Him-100

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...l-Reservations

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...s-To-Be-Banned

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...s-To-Be-Banned

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...tle-Challenges

Yep, that makes you a proven hypocrite.

Orlong 2020! Ban all the things I don't like!

[Khallid]

Im so happy I dont live in a country like that. Now they are using their nanny powers to force you to eat no more than 400 calories at breakfast and 600 for lunch and dinner if youre not making the food yourself.

LMAO, thanks for the laughs. This post made my day.

Changing the size of a package has no effect on how much food you eat. You're just going to buy multiple small-sized meals if you want more and possibly make slightly more garbage waste out of it.

[Orlong]

Are you still trying to push your hypocritical narrative? Why do you hate freedom so damn much?

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I want to think that he's simply a satire account, whose sole job is to mock himself and hypocritical "conservatives," but I think he may actually be serious.

How is forcing restaurants to cap calorie counts thereby forcing people to pay more for less food, or having to spend more than before buying 2 servings so they don't walk away with hunger pangs freedom?

[Rukario]

Give me back my trans fat!!!!

[Machismo]

How is forcing restaurants to cap calorie counts thereby forcing people to pay more for less food, or having to spend more than before buying 2 servings so they don't walk away with hunger pangs freedom?

You want to force restaurants to serve all-you-can-eat food and you want to ban pineapples on pizza (via the government) You are a proven hypocrite.

[Endus]

The only thing "mandated" here, even if this did get proposed and passed (which it hasn't), would be labelling. Meals listed as "breakfast" and "lunch" and "dinner" offerings would have to be below those calorie counts. If you want to order 15 Egg McMuffins and eat them all for breakfast, nothing's gonna stop you, and it's ridiculous as hell to pretend this was proposing that.

And it would only apply to fast-food and ready-meal options, nothing else.

It'll just encourage food providers to offer more "add-ons", or not label food items as part of those specific meals.

[Orlong]

The only thing "mandated" here, even if this did get proposed and passed (which it hasn't), would be labelling. Meals listed as "breakfast" and "lunch" and "dinner" offerings would have to be below those calorie counts. If you want to order 15 Egg McMuffins and eat them all for breakfast, nothing's gonna stop you, and it's ridiculous as hell to pretend this was proposing that.

And it would only apply to fast-food and ready-meal options, nothing else.

It'll just encourage food providers to offer more "add-ons", or not label food items as part of those specific meals.

But if 1 egg mcmuffin has too many calories, then they have to make it smaller, or substitute things that will make it taste shitty. Either way the customer is screwed. They either get less food for the same money (because they sure wont be lowering the price), or pay more for the same thing because the change in ingredients cost more

[Ghostpanther]

If we continue to see obesity rates rise, then this will have been a failure, but i'd rather have the government actually try and do something but fail, instead of just watching our population get fatter and fatter without doing anything.

As far as "Big Brother", NSA and the Patriot Act says hi.

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My apologies then, i'd been led to believe that the sugar tax was a bigger thing in America.

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That is for National Security. The 3000 who died on 9/11 I am sure were a mixture of thin and fat people. A much more important threat to the citizens then some extra calories.

On taxes, those governments which have tried to tax stuff like sugar and fat, have mainly one goal in mind. Revenue.

And if a citizen has to buy 2 packages to get the same fulfillment ( calories ) as they did for one package and those two cost more than the one did, that is in effect, a tax on those who buy two packages. So would depend on how it is implemented. I am sure two packages will cost more for the simple fact of more packaging costs.

[Endus]

But if 1 egg mcmuffin has too many calories, then they have to make it smaller, or substitute things that will make it taste shitty. Either way the customer is screwed. They either get less food for the same money (because they sure wont be lowering the price), or pay more for the same thing because the change in ingredients cost more

Or just not advertise it as a breakfast meal. Literally all they'd need to do to comply with this non-law that might have such requirements, maybe.

[Deleted]

That is for National Security. The 3000 who died on 9/11 I am sure were a mixture of thin and fat people. A much more important threat to the citizens then some extra calories.

On taxes, those governments which have tried to tax stuff like sugar and fat, have mainly one goal in mind. Revenue.

And if a citizen has to buy 2 packages to get the same fulfillment ( calories ) as they did for one package and those two cost more than the one did, that is in effect, a tax on those who buy two packages. So would depend on how it is implemented. I am sure two packages will cost more for the simple fact of more packaging costs.

You're assuming that they'll reduce the size of the meal itself instead of rebranding it as something else to get around the restrictions, or, god help us all, actually make it healthier.

[Flutterguy]

You want universal healthcare, you want the government dictating how you live. Simple as that. It's like living with your parents. They make the rules, not you.

[Ghostpanther]

You're assuming that they'll reduce the size of the meal itself instead of rebranding it as something else to get around the restrictions, or, god help us all, actually make it healthier.

That will only work if it is actually tasty and fulfilling. I have a family member who is on a gluten free diet. Which is fine for her, not knocking it. But they were over for Christmas dinner with us and brought some gluten free dinner rolls. So my wife did not make any. I did not tell her, but they tasted like crap.