Yeah and that's why Europeans conquered the Americas. Not because they had the right to but because they could. Ability and obligation seem to what people are hung up on here.
Yeah and that's why Europeans conquered the Americas. Not because they had the right to but because they could. Ability and obligation seem to what people are hung up on here.
How do you even invade Teldrasiil? I mean was Horde supposed to climb that tree so they could conquer it honorably? That would probably result in instant loss for the Horde.
Also we still don't know what exactly happens in that whole Teldrassil scenario, so this is probably discussion best left for later.
I would say it's probably open for the taking. Feral worgen are obviously beasts and sentient one's are dubious at best.
So just anyone who wins has the right? Seems pretty fishy to me. It would be impossible to infringe upon someone's rights in that case. European settlers didn't have the right to remove native Americans from the continent, but they did.
Your confusing ability to own things with right to own things again. Worgen, forsaken and naaru don't have the right to own anything but that doesn't stop them from doing so.
Tirion can come visit, but no way in hell is he getting his sword back.
But undercity is the already given name to the catacombs under the capital. Sylvanas really can't plague again that which she already infected/plagued! Nonsense.
Well... he did said that the Naaru and Worgen also do not have rights to anything, so i guess his stand is made.
If you don't look human, you have no rights.
Note: Well... if you don't ALWAYS look human, you have no rights (in case of Worgen)
Note2: talking about Annedroo not the Anduin avatar guy
Blizzard literally said that the Horde still controls Silverpine and Hillsbrad as well as Quel'thalas, with the Warfront in Arathi being a defensive effort on the Alliance's part to stop the Blood Elves from retaking the Undercity. It's been linked a few times.
So yes, the Alliance IS vulnerable to counter-attacks. That's what actually happens.
And that is apparently how the Forsaken are losing claim of Lordaeron and how the Alliance is taking claim of the area.
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I hope the Alliance takes all said territories, so we can finally play Horde for the Horde, instead of running errands for the undead high elf for two expansions straight.
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Don't you know? It's okay for Horde leaders to literally destroy entire cities...it's okay for them to slaughter masses of people...murder the innocents...yet they're still portrayed as innocents...especially by someone in this thread who has the biggest hard on for Sylvanas I've ever seen.
But you know...the Alliance enslaves some Orcs who attacked with no justification and they're evil...one camp is destroyed and it's evil...but it's okay to nuke Theramore...it's okay to burn down Teldrassil.
I'll agree it gives you the ability to claim things as your own. And of course magni, earthen and iron dwarves aren't people. Magni might as well be an undead dwarf.
the alliance needs to leave my waifu alone...
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I'm yet to see Blizzard let Alliance get any territorial gain that wouldn't be a plagued wasteland, some blasted to smithereens crater, well basically anything of value. Horde can of course get Azshara, Hillsbrad and half of Ashenvale, because why not. I bet by the end of BFA Undercity will be reclaimed and repopulated by the Forsaken who of course can endure any conditions that would kill mortals (since they're already dead), but Teldrassil will stay burnt because well sorry can't unburn that now. Exactly how Theramore is a crater now, Southshore is a pile of toxic slugde, Silverwind Refuge had all its inhabitants murdered including civilians, but Orgrimmar is unscathed despite so called "siege". Alliance doesn't get to bomb or plague Stonard, Kargath or any other big horde settlement. Doesn't get a previously neutral zone exclusively as their own, let's say Searing Gorge. All they got allowed to destroy was Camp Taurajo and even that wasn't painted in the colours "let's kill some beefcakes for a change" but rather "that was a mistake and a war crime". Even the soldier / grunt gossip in Ashran is like: Ally - "why aren't they respecting the treaty?", Horde - "I'm itching to bash some ally skulls in". The narrative for the Alliance is to be less aggressive and due to it always end on the losing side. Every time they want to sign a peace treaty, they have to give up something for it. And since the game demands to be oriented around 2 factions going forward, it's always gonna end in some treaty / ceasefire / truce. For an expansion or 2 after which Blizz undigs "faction conflict" as a fresh and exciting idea definitely not creatively bankrupt yet.