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    Roll the Bones missing in the BFA alpha build

    The chance it's been removed is rather high.

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    I would be okay with that.

    I'm more annoyed about Blade Flurry being returned to a 10 second duration cooldown ability rather than a toggle like it has been for the last 8 years, though. I really liked it as a toggle

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    The blade flurry change, find weakness returning as a talent, dispatch returning as a talent, assassination mastery affecting bleeds now too... these all seem like changes in the right direction. Feint and cloak nerf sucks, but it was inevitable and smart players will adjust to it fine. At least evasion has a shorter CD :P.

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    Roll the Bones is a bad spell. In fact, it's so fucking bad that all it actually is is all the buffs from the MoP warships scenario.

    I am just appalled and shocked that Blizzard is so fucking lazy that the thought they put into a new spell that would be integral to the performance of a specc is LITERALLY just some random rng buff from an outdated expansion.

    It should have never existed in the first place, let alone taken so pitifully long to be removed.

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    I don't think anyone will miss having all their damage decided by RNG. The only thing I'll miss is the rather cool animation.
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    It's still there, loaded dice has even become a talent for the same effect it has now.

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    Assassination gets Dispatch back as a talent....

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    Out of ideas?
    Expansion A: remove abilities
    Expansion B: re-add abilities

    BAM - two expansions worth of class design WHILE DOING ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING.

    Good fucking job blizzard
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Assassination gets Dispatch back as a talent....

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    Out of ideas?
    Expansion A: remove abilities
    Expansion B: re-add abilities

    BAM - two expansions worth of class design WHILE DOING ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING.

    Good fucking job blizzard
    Relax dude. Relax.
    This is the start of the alpha, a lot can happen in between now and release... Its going to be okay, take a deep breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Assassination gets Dispatch back as a talent....

    ---

    Out of ideas?
    Expansion A: remove abilities
    Expansion B: re-add abilities

    BAM - two expansions worth of class design WHILE DOING ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING.

    Good fucking job blizzard
    I dont get it. People complain of the prune, Blizzard says ok we will look at it again, add some abilities back. smh.

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    Good RIDDANCE. Roll the Bones was single-handedly what lead me to quit playing Outlaw, and subsequently quit playing my Rogue altogether. I gave it a good run, too, but after Mythic EN clear I was just too fed up with it.

    If this ability is pruned, I hope Combat Rogue comes back. I feel like Outlaw changes were a huge mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrappybristol View Post
    The chance it's been removed is rather high.
    Except loaded dice is in the build as well, and it talks about roll the bones..So..yeah..

    Shot down pretty quick

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    It is in there... as a lvl40 Outlaw spell

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    Its not an alpha build, its just SOME alpha data.
    Big difference.
    Alpha currently isn't even active yet, at most this is like a pre-patch for Alpha thats being datamined that will still need another patch before Alpha can start.
    And RtB is in there.

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    I personally had no issues with rtb, even early on when it was "bad"

    I thought it was the funnest spec to play by far, and having to deal with the rng was never nearly as bad as anyone makes it out to be.

    That's not to say rtb rng wasn't a problem through most of legion(it's largely solved now) Assassination poison bomb rng is arguably just as bad, if not worse...yet where are those people railing about pb being the worst idea or ability in the game? If you quit playing because rtb? what a joke! rng is in every element of every system in WoW and you'd put your foot down on rtb. Yeah okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americandavey View Post
    I dont get it. People complain of the prune, Blizzard says ok we will look at it again, add some abilities back. smh.
    He's not wrong though. It's so god damn unbelievable that we are actually feeling good about them doing it, when we should feel justified and they should be ashamed if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saluna View Post
    Relax dude. Relax.
    This is the start of the alpha, a lot can happen in between now and release... Its going to be okay, take a deep breath.
    i think he died from that last use of all caps. alpha presets come out and the neckbeards are necking out

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfporn View Post
    I personally had no issues with rtb, even early on when it was "bad"

    I thought it was the funnest spec to play by far, and having to deal with the rng was never nearly as bad as anyone makes it out to be.

    That's not to say rtb rng wasn't a problem through most of legion(it's largely solved now) Assassination poison bomb rng is arguably just as bad, if not worse...yet where are those people railing about pb being the worst idea or ability in the game? If you quit playing because rtb? what a joke! rng is in every element of every system in WoW and you'd put your foot down on rtb. Yeah okay.
    Are you for real? The PB thing was probably the biggest complain about assa.....

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    Is it bad that this upsets me? I mean I know roll the bones is RNG, and OMG RNG IS SO BAD, but... I thought it was a fun ability. Outlaw won't feel the same without it.

    Oh well. There are certainly worse things they could remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iettlopp View Post
    Are you for real? The PB thing was probably the biggest complain about assa.....
    My point was that people like PB but hate that it’s random, and it doesn’t get nearly the same up-in-arms reactions that rtb does, despite being more random with less control than rtb.

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    Doesn't matter to me one way or the other if RtB ends up being taken out of the game, though I doubt it very much considering Loaded Dice is on the current talent tree for the alpha, because I've been playing Outlaw SnD since the beginning of Antorus. Even with having the 4 piece I never bothered to even try RtB because SnD makes the spec fun to play while also being competitive on a lot of fights.

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