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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    90% of people here don't even know Tyrande.
    There are Tyrande apologists all over these forums. She's a horrible person. It's like she wants to take the Methadone away from a recovering Heroin addict.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    90% of people here don't even know Tyrande. Why should she bother to destroy arcanedor? Is it a threat to Nature? Is it a threat to Azeroth? It doesn't matter what the Nightborne do but arcanedor is not a target for Night Elves. The creators of arcandor were druids. Nightborne only helped the growth of the tree because they needed it and now that they are done with it, they no longer need it.

    Tyrande's first priority is her duty to Elune which is to protect the nature and the wilds. Right now Ashenvale, Hyjal and other Night Elven lands are more important.
    The creators of the arcan'dor were not druids, they were keepers and it was created together with magi. It is a combination of both nature and arcane magic.

  3. #43
    On topic of Tyrande and Arcan'dor, I actually want this to happen. With her doing it in person. And the released energy turning her into a Fal'dorei. Would be a great ending for her character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Except for the main force against the Legion being 2 Humans, a High Elf, a Night Elf and a Draenei + a legion of Lightforged.
    And countless adventurers.

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    The Arcan'dor does not pose a threat to the Kal'dorei, the nightwell did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idototems View Post
    The Arcan'dor does not pose a threat to the Kal'dorei, the nightwell did.
    This remains to be seen though, who knows if the fruit can be weaponized and turned into something rather devastating. The Aran'dor does channel vast amounts of power after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plehnard View Post
    The night well is a different beast thou. It's a purely arcane source of power that saps it's power from the planet/titan itself while the Arcandor is to a big part of Druidic nature fused with the arcane.
    It would be strange if night elves would actively destroy a tree that provides life, even if it's for their enemies. Tyrande may be a dickhead at times but she's not a monster like Sylvannas.
    What do you expect from someone who thinks Sylvanas is as pure as the driven snow?

    Infracted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    On topic of Tyrande and Arcan'dor, I actually want this to happen. With her doing it in person. And the released energy turning her into a Fal'dorei. Would be a great ending for her character.
    Honestly, the best end for tyrande would be losing favor of elune (aka her being bored with tyrandes idiotism) and receiving some horrible mutation as partying gift.

  9. #49
    Destroying it seems like a poor choice. I don't recall any evidence that they repeatedly need to eat fruit from the Arcandor. I recall that the Arcandor sates their mana addiction enough that it doesn't devolve them into withered. They still feel addiction, for example, but no longer suffer from the more severe conditions of withdraw. In that case, destroying it would be a massive waste of resources compared to what value it holds and the cost it would denote.

    Also... Doesn't the Arcandor feed off of the leylines that are tapped by the Nightwell...? That poses one of three outcomes. One, the major tap from the Nightwell doesn't feed into the smaller ones, including the one that the Arcandor feeds off of. Two, does the Arcandor now have a limited threshold of empowered fruit that its nutrient source is either severely diminished or simply gone? Three, does the deactivation of the Nightwell actually route MORE leyline energy into the Arcandor, therefore making more potent (and possibly unstable once again)?

    Too many theoretical questions to note, in all seriousness, and all of which would very likely be kept from Alliance (including players that helped grow it, as well) and especially Tyrande.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Nightwell was the source of their addiction and it was also used by legion. And I don't call a person who came to help the same people who betrayed her in the past a horrible person.
    I dunno, she was massive bitch about that help. With that attitude she could as well go f herself.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Nightwell was the source of their addiction and it was also used by legion. And I don't call a person who came to help the same people who betrayed her in the past a horrible person.
    Considering that Thalyssra herself was instrumental in taking back Suramar, Tyrande needs to let go of this pettiness. What others did shouldn't affect her judgement of who stood in front of her. MoP had an entire arc for her about this, with Varian teaching her to let go.

    Didn't seem to stick.
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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Thousands of years ago, as the Quel'dorei were just beginning to unravel the mysteries of the arcane, a small enclave of druids met with the first of the elven magi.

    In the pale moonlight, they formed an order that would seek to bring the arcane into balance - using nature itself as a vessel. Thus the arcan'dor were created.


    Druids were part of it.
    Nope they were not, they were keepers.

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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Nightwell was the source of their addiction and it was also used by legion. And I don't call a person who came to help the same people who betrayed her in the past a horrible person.
    When did they betray her?
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  14. #54
    She won't destroy it, and it probably wouldn't really cross her mind to do so. Despite all the memes she's not that kind of character and never has been. Her targeting the Nightwell is because fonts of Arcane power draw Demons and she's seen enough of the Legion in her lifetime. That's really the only reason.

    Also it isn't hard to understand that Tyrande considers the Nightborne to be traitors. She's had an extremely long life, she remembers how they hid behind a shield while the world burned. Just because one of the traitors did something in her own self interest (retaking Suramar) doesn't make her less of a traitor to Tyrande and the survivors.
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Considering what the Nightborne did in the past, distrusting them is justified. Still she decided to come to Suramar. If Nightborne are offended because of Tyrande's cautiousness which the result of their own actions, well it demonstrates that they do not regret that they abandoned their own kin in war of the ancients.
    Distrusting them is one thing. Flatly comparing the Nightfallen leader to two worst individuals in Nightborne history (one of which is shared with worst individuals in Night Elf history) even when she was leading a rebellion against one of said individuals is another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    I dunno, she was massive bitch about that help. With that attitude she could as well go f herself.
    Well yea she was, but if people think it's ok for Thalryssa to turn her back on the Nightelves for that (who helped her even before Tyrande came around, just as everyone else did) then it is also ok for Tyrande to be a bitch about not getting help from Thalryssa and the others at the time of the Sundering.
    It's kind of the always repeating vicious circle that's so common in Warcraft. Everyone has a reason and if you understand one of them you should understand both, but noone is willing to be the one to de-escalate for once and just leave it be.
    And if someone tries, he gets called weak or a traitor. So.. better to just keep it going and be a vindictive bitch, aye? ^^

  17. #57
    Her character is so mishandled and bipolar due to years of awful writing that it's impossible to say for sure what direction they're going to take her. It's like predicting if Jaina will be whiny or psychotic next expansion. It's a roll of the dice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    Considering that Thalyssra herself was instrumental in taking back Suramar, Tyrande needs to let go of this pettiness. What other did shouldn't affect her judgement of who stood in front of her. MoP had an entire arc for her about this, with Varian teaching her to let go.

    Didn't seem to stick.
    Well tbh, that seems to be how female characters in wow end up. Jaina, Tyrande, Sylvanas, maiev, all end up bitter, miserable characters. Only one not and who had some growth was Moira.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elune-life-nature View Post
    Considering what the Nightborne did in the past, distrusting them is justified. Still she decided to come to Suramar. If Nightborne are offended because of Tyrande's cautiousness which the result of their own actions, well it demonstrates that they do not regret that they abandoned their own kin in war of the ancients.
    From Tyrande's perspective (and perhaps those of the Kaldorei as a whole) this is true, but from the Nightfallen's perspective Tyrande permitted 10,000 year-old grievances to stay her hand while the people in Suramar suffered and died at the hands of Elisande and the Legion. And a reminder, Tyrande's attitude in this matter is coming from the High Priestess of Elune - a goddess devoted to peace, charity, goodness, and all things typically related to the Light. I found her behavior very unbecoming of the Light even though I understood its genesis.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Well tbh, that seems to be how female characters in wow end up. Jaina, Tyrande, Sylvanas, maiev, all end up bitter, miserable characters. Only one not and who had some growth was Moira.
    Well she started out very bitter ;P

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