Automaker Volkswagen forced monkeys to breathe diesel fumes in 2014

[Allybeboba]

i'd much rather we use death row inmates for this kind of thing.

animal testing is just horrible. shouldn't be a thing.

I suppose if they volunteered it wouldn’t be so bad. Would shouldn’t give them any incentives though.

Cheers

[Garnier Fructis]

i'd much rather we use death row inmates for this kind of thing.

animal testing is just horrible. shouldn't be a thing.

And what if they're on death row but falsely convicted?

[derpkitteh]

And what if they're on death row but falsely convicted?

monetary compensation, either to them upon release or to their family upon their death.

[Garnier Fructis]

monetary compensation, either to them upon release or to their family upon their death.

So you're suggesting that we simply fix the problem of accidental human experiment on innocent people by throwing money at it.

That's so ethical and moral and upstanding.

[Uncle]

This is nothing compared to US/English/French research/experiments where they use real people kidnapped from poor countries especially on the African continent.

I don't know what you are injecting in your veins, but i want that too.

[Deleted]

That's probably smaller doses than the average citizen of a Chinese metropolis breathes on a good day.

[Dys]

So you're suggesting that we simply fix the problem of accidental human experiment on innocent people by throwing money at it.

That's so ethical and moral and upstanding.

What if it's elective, as in, the prisoner has the choice? Oh man, such a hard solution to that fictional problem.

[Mad_Murdock]

I don't know what you are injecting in your veins, but i want that too.

You may or may not. It has not been tested well on the supposed kidnapped people yet and so the adverse side effects are not fully understood. I have it from a very good and reliable source, that the substance has turned frogs gay (not that it's a bad thing mind you)

Link to highly reliable source here

[Elba]

i'd much rather we use death row inmates for this kind of thing.

animal testing is just horrible. shouldn't be a thing.

Why not volunteer?

[Doctor Amadeus]

One of those nobody wants to see where the steak comes from.

[THE Bigzoman]

What if it's elective, as in, the prisoner has the choice? Oh man, such a hard solution to that fictional problem.

I think that's a neat idea.

[Deleted]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42858668

Turns out it wasn't just monkeys. EUGT did testing on humans too.

Then at the weekend Germany's Stuttgarter Zeitung and SWR radio reported that 19 men and six women had inhaled diesel fumes in another EUGT experiment.

[Deleted]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42858668

Turns out it wasn't just monkeys. EUGT did testing on humans too.

Silly Germans and their old habits, right? Damn.

[Ghostpanther]

i'd much rather we use death row inmates for this kind of thing.

animal testing is just horrible. shouldn't be a thing.

This. A better mouse trap.

[zenkai]

10 monkeys in gas chamber experienced VW diesel cheating firsthand

After years of the Volkswagen dieselgate scandal, The New York Times found out that ten monkeys were trapped in an airtight room in a laboratory and forced to breathe diesel fumes. It was part of a campaign by German automakers to hire scientists to do studies that might exonerate diesel as being environmentally safe. The American scientists who were conducting the test were not aware that the diesel-powered Beetle being used was equipped with one of VW's infamous defeat devices, which allowed them to cheat on emissions tests.

Details of the experiment undertaken in Albuquerque in 2014 were spelled out in a lawsuit against Volkswagen in the United States, the Times reports. The ten cynomolgus macaque monkies, a type used extensively in medical experiments, were shown cartoons. Scientists piped in exhaust from the Beetle, which ran on a treadmill in a separate room. The study did not provide a clear finding.

The European Research Group on Environment and Health in the Transport Sector, which was funded by VW, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz commissioned the monkey experiment. It was created in 2007 as Volkswagen was preparing to market diesel technology in the United States, which has tougher restrictions on diesel than Europe, but shut down last year over controversy about its work.

The group received all of its funding for the monkey tests in Albuquerque from VW, Daimler and BMW, all of which defended the organization's work. "All of the research work commissioned with the EUGT was accompanied and reviewed by a research advisory committee consisting of scientists from renowned universities and research institutes," Daimler said in a statement.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/26/...ber-vw-diesel/

That is just really messed up...

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I don't see the problem?

[Travis B]

Who would've thought that a car company essentially founded by Hitler could be capable of such an atrocity?